From giuliomoro@yahoo.it Tue Jun 11 17:03:04 2019
Subject:Re: korg kronos for organ
You may be talking about the Yamaha SK series perhaps ? I have a beautiful SK-40: String machine + Polysynth (both on DCOs) + Hammond clone (FM) + Monophonic synth (analog, the equivalent of a CS-5). Also has a "two-speed rotary simulator" (based on Bucket-brigade devices), which also doubles up as chorus for the strings sections.
On Wednesday, 12 June 2019, 00:39:46 BST, Barry Carson organbarry@gmail.com [CloneWheel] wrote:
The original cx3 was pretty awesome back then! It sort of set the appearance for most clonewheels since then! Yamaha had something with a clonewheel built in with a synth about the same time - amazing stuff back then! I had gotten a Yamaha yc 30 and ra 70 rotary amp not long before - these new things blew that stuff away!,
On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 7:31 PM goff macaraeg goff747@yahoo.com [CloneWheel] wrote:
"What they had was a Voce V3. I bought it, which eventually led to the Voce Support Group .... which morphed into the Clonewheel Support Group!"
yeah i almost bought a voce before i got the VK8m but i could not find one to try, unlike the 8m that was easily available at guitar center. at the time, the going clone was the VK8, so the 8m was not too far off. wanted a module anyway not a full keyboard.
and yes the CX3 was a start. of course crumar was out in the 70's but again, could not find one of those anywhere back then. so when the CX3 came around, it was pointing in the right direction.
i sold my CX3 after 3 years.
not everyone wanted a hammond porta B.
goff
On Wednesday, June 12, 2019, 7:21:32 AM GMT+8, Bruce Wahler bw@ashbysolutions.com [CloneWheel] wrote:
The '80s CX-3 was 100% analog, using octave divider ICs and filters. No relation to the 2000's CX-3, other than the name. A pretty good organ in its own right, but nowhere near accurate by today's standards. 96 (vs. 91) oscillators, no foldback, cheesy vibrato, etc. But it was a start!
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Interesting aside: In 1996, I went down to Caruso Music in CT to try out, and probably buy, an '80s BX-3, the bigger brother. When I got there, we discovered that the BX-3 had all kinds of problems, mostly caused by leaky electrolytic capacitors -- a notorious problem in '80s keyboards after they became 10+ years old.
The organ was taken down to the repair shop in the basement for a 'quick repair.' After waiting almost two hours, I said, "OK, I just drove 125 miles to check out this organ. It's clear that it's not getting fixed today. What else have you got?"
What they had was a Voce V3. I bought it, which eventually led to the Voce Support Group ... which morphed into the Clonewheel Support Group!
Regards,
-BW
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On 6/11/2019 6:41 PM, goff macaraeg goff747@yahoo.com [CloneWheel] wrote:
Bruce, i had a CX3 in the early 80's. What engine was in that model? it sounded ok for not having to schlepp a B3 around but was fraught with computer cable problems.
today i still rely on my early 2000's VK8M.
goff
On Wednesday, June 12, 2019, 6:27:49 AM GMT+8, Bruce Wahler bw@ashbysolutions.com [CloneWheel] wrote:
It is the same engine as the digital CX-3, tweaked along the lines of the BX-3/CX-3 v2 model, which was a little mellower. I've been told that it has some 'additional tweaks,' but these are a) unconfirmed; and b) probably minor. The Korg organ engine, unfortunately, is approaching 20 years old (the CX-3 came out in either 1999 or 2000), and I don't think Korg has put many resources into it lately. It holds its own against the competition of its day -- i.e., the VK-7/VK-8, the Electro 2, and the XK-2. It's probably a perfect 'free' addition to the Kronos/Oasys, because any 2000-ish clonewheel did not need -- or have -- a lot of CPU resources.
Regards,
-BW
Bruce Wahler
Ashby Solutions.com™
bw@ashbysolutions.com
http://music.ashbysolutions.com
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On 6/11/2019 4:56 PM, Marshall manofmanykeys@gmail.com [CloneWheel] wrote:
Oh. Good idea... forgot about my ventilator.. I really don't need it, IMHO, with the vr09. But the Kronos could indeed benefit! Is it the same engine as I have in my old digital CX-3? I played that recently and couldn't handle the thin brittle upper end; however, as I sham bass, I loved the rich bass.
On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 4:20 PM 'sagetunes1 .' sagetunes@gmail.com [CloneWheel] wrote:
Using a neo Vent will make either one sound MUCH better.
In fact, I have the Roland VR730, same organ engine as the VR-09, and it sounds amazing.
On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 12:38 PM Marshall manofmanykeys@gmail..com [CloneWheel] wrote:
Hi All,
I'm in love with my Kronos but I'm wondering what people do to improve the B3 sounds? I believe the CX-3 engine is rather old now and what I've heard confirms it. I'm mostly playing my VR-09 which is great fun however I'm probably going to start using the Kronos because of the piano keyboard and lots of other things.
I recently saw the Doobies on PBS rotation and Billy Payne seemed to have 3 Kronos boards on stage. He was just playing preset organ patches (as opposed to B3 style playing) andI think and it sounded ok.
Any of you folk using the Kronos for organ gigs OR at least organ/piano gigs? Interested in the experience.
Thanks, marshall