From goff747@yahoo.com Tue Aug 06 18:54:02 2019
Subject:XK-5 sim
XK-5 sim.
Hammond XK5 Internal Leslie Simulation test
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Hammond XK5 Internal Leslie Simulation test
Sorry, I'm not a traditional organ player, but thought some people might want to hear the sounds as I try them o...
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goff
On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, 5:08:47 AM GMT+8, Craig MacDonald ccmacdon@rogers.com [CloneWheel] wrote:
Clearly, I’m not the only “seasoned” player that has never heard a leslie referred to as a “lester”.. (thanks for chiming in Tony).. yes maybe it’s a regional thing.. but I have to say that I’ve been a member of, or in this case the moderator of, a number of Hammond related forums and I have NEVER heard a leslie called a lester.
Now let’s get back to talking about some clone sims.. I’ve heard a couple of recordings of the Hammond XK-5 that are sounding really good, but they’re almost always through a leslie. So, I’m still not convinced that Hammond has built a good leslie sim into the XK-5..
Anyone have any good recordings of the internal XK-5 sim they could post...?
Craig
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On Aug 6, 2019, at 3:32 PM, tonysounds tonysounds@yahoo.com [CloneWheel] wrote:
Seems more of a regional colloquialism but there's the proof!
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On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 9:59 AM, tonysounds tonysounds@yahoo.com [CloneWheel] wrote:
The "lester"? Yeah, no.
Never heard that term. Spinners. Spinny thing. Rotor. Heard those, but never in my entire life did anyone ever use the term Lester. I aint that young but ....
As for sims not faring well vs mic'd leslies.....I hate to say it, but the more the PA is handling the room, the better the sims actually do. Sorry to say it, but it is what it is. i still carry a LESLIE so it's not like I have a point to prove. But if the PA is carrying the room....I'll think twice.
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On Sunday, August 4, 2019, 11:44:37 AM MDT, Craig MacDonald ccmacdon@rogers.com [CloneWheel] wrote:
Goff,
I’ve never heard of a leslie referred to as a “lester”.. but if you say so, who am I to disagree (as the song says).. your explanation makes sense but without it, the post was a tad bit confusing, given the fact that a “lester” is a model of leslie pedal..
However given your explanation I think we’re making capiche now.. ;-)
Craig
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On Aug 4, 2019, at 1:32 PM, goff macaraeg goff747@yahoo.com [CloneWheel] wrote:
dear guys, craig, barry..
i see... since the digitizing of this forum the old world term for "lester" was stolen from us old guys (don't worry scott hawthorne i'm coming to your emotional rescue) who used it way before it became the name of a pedal and patented by EHX to become a pedal's name. since of course the loving term for leslie was lester, autocorrect notwithstanding, i did intentionally use the term "lester" for leslie as we know that mike mathews was around then to know this and subsequently now we know this on this forum.. similar to what happened to Thomas Organ and the "cry-baby" wah pedal. it was a you snooze you lose scenario.
that's what i think!
As far as not being able to tell a difference in FOH of a real "lester-lie" and a "VENT-ster" or even on a recording, i beg to disagree.
for the months i monitored the eastbay grease guys' performances before they arrived for their show, i always thought the organ sounded unusual. it didn't blend with the band as i'd heard the songs before. they were of course using a hammond B3mk2 and a 3300 where they could find one, mostly in conus and japan, as roger is an endorser, http://hammondorganco.com/wp-content/plugins/doptg/uploads/cftgn3nBcyDm9StELXdpWbPw4Y2WjYaX7jmqkO5ekDstqL3g3LNZSjmxGPrYmXMhN.jpg
but then, when they arrived, did i hear what they needed to do with a vent as it wasn't in the rider. all they put was "two leslie outputs" in the rider. who knew what that was about other than needing a power relay and two lester-lies? when talking with their sound engineer during set up and line-check, he told me all their concerts were done with a Vent going out to the PA/recorder.
they had bob S make them a universal adapter for a vent to a 122/147.
for some reason it did not work even using a power relay to get two lester-lies to work.
http://www.tonewheelgeneral.com/images/pwrrelay.jpg
and as i mentioned, i heard the band many times in different venues, before roger took over from chester, even a parking lot swap meet with no stage, as well as listened to their albums, hence i for one could tell the lester-lie was not sounding normal in the mix.
i got this sense of watching a clutch cargo cartoon....
Clutch Cargo: The Case of Ripcord Van Winkle
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Clutch Cargo: The Case of Ripcord Van Winkle
This animated cliff-hanger serial centers on Clutch Cargo, a writer and pilot who is sent around the world on da...
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the lips are moving but the rest is fake.
there is something about how the organ mixes with the rest of the band that was off with the vent vs the real thing.
craig some people have ears of differing abilities.
have you guys run into this brick reato (aka beato o'rick) clip of his amazing relative?Are There Different Levels of Perfect Pitch?
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Are There Different Levels of Perfect Pitch?
In this video we discuss and demonstrate the different levels of Perfect Pitch abilities. My son Dylan Beato is ...
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look here @1:12 you can see two lester-lie's but according to mike their engineer, those were for roger and the band not for the audience.
Tower of Power - I Like Your Style, What Is Hip? @SJF2017 서울재즈페스티벌
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Tower of Power - I Like Your Style, What Is Hip? @SJF2017 서울재즈페스티벌
2017 서울 재즈 페스티벌 2부 170828 SBS 방송본 앞쪽이 잘렸습니다ㅠㅠ
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since you just picked up a B3/122 craig, (it was you wasn't it?) that puts you in the same group of us old guys who switched to a tranny-clone (oops is this not PC to use anymore?) because of not being able to move the real thing. i only did that back in the early 80's as doing a cover band for me at that time was not worth hauling the real thing.
me now, providing backline to the majors, hence the unlimited roadie population.
i assumed that someone would figure this out without being too blatant.
my bad.
are we making capiche?
goff
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