From patazzmusic@yahoo.com Mon Aug 29 15:32:35 2016
Subject:Re: Is the Hammond XK-5 about to blow the competition out of the wat
Chiming in here a bit.
I’ve heard some really bad organ sounds be called good by people simply because they focused on a specific part of the sound (e.g., the Leslie spinning up, or the drawbar setting).
To be fair to other musicians, many can’t tell the difference between a Strat and a LP and a Tele .
And many keyboard players (not organists) can’t tell a rompler from a clone in many cases – at least until they have had a shot at owning both.
With regards to realism, I liken the Clonewheel vs. Rompler debate to the drum machine debate back in the 80’s. Some people can’t tell the difference – especially when the performer is really good at compensating.
1. The know how the real thing should sound.
2. They play to the specifics of the instrument (e.g., plays the rompler in a range where it most sounds like a Hammond).
You can fool people if you are really good, and have the appropriate control, but for those in the know (especially the player doing the work) , they generally would like the real thing all things being equal (road crew, on-tour chiropractor, same pay, etc. ).
When I work with other musicians who get it, I appreciate them – and the instruments - a whole lot more.
Chiming out now 😊
Pat Azzarello Music
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From: Dan Fidanze danfidanze@ymail.com [CloneWheel]
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 10:30 AM
To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CWSG] Re: Is the Hammond XK-5 about to blow the competition out of the wat
Maybe I'm just fortunate or maybe it's the area I live in, but I find lots of musicians around here ( Chicago area) notice the difference between a CloneWheel and a synth organ patch. Might also be because I play with a couple bands that play blues, classic rock and Zydeco and not much pop. They certainly recognize the Hammond name ( I use SK1 w/ Vent). Don't give up hope - there are still people out there with ears, both among other musicians and listening audience. We just have to keep putting it out there and those that actually listen will hear.
Dr Dan
On Aug 29, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Lou C bgvocals@yahoo.com [CloneWheel] wrote:
Yes you are right. I have a T-shirt I wear that says "Leslie Speakers" with Leslie in the original logo font in gold letters on a black shirt. I have been wearing it for YEARS and had never gotten any comments on playing organ, Hammond, Leslie, or anything. Then about a month ago I was coming out of a bank and an older guy looked at me and said, "Hey, you play keys?" FINALLY!
I find there are very few musicians these days who know anything at all about keys, even less who can tell the difference between an organ sound and a synth sound, extremely few who really appreciate the Hammond/Leslie sound, and almost none who know what a clonewheel is. Sad. We are an esoteric bunch for sure.
Barry, in my experience, almost ALL keyboard players are not organ players. And I'm not talking about them not being hot-shot organ players with tons of talent. I mean they don't even know that organ is played differently than piano. And drawbars? Forget it. Most of them don't even control the Leslie speed. It's frustrating sometimes.
Lou
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