From goff747@yahoo.com Mon Nov 24 17:56:57 2014
Subject:Re: VR-09 clonewheel engine quality Re: What we all really want in our homes--a gigantic pipe organ!
>>I should have just reinstalled XP back when my PC got a bad virus...>>
dude XP is the only MS software worth having. 7 and worse, 8, where you have people dumping their 8 pc's as it don't work works slower in fact. MS went to a double digit as the next OS as it wants to erase the stigma of single digit OS names.
On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 9:48 AM, "Norman Peterson normswwworld@gmail.com [CloneWheel]" wrote:
I have Win 7 on my laptop & have VB3 with Cantable as the host...No issues there...On my PC which I upgraded from XP to Win 7 is where i am having trouble..I also an now using Pro Tools Express..Upgraded from Pro Tools LE 8...All plug ins from GSI crash it... I really miss GS 201 Space Echo plug in & of course VB3...I should have just reinstalled XP back when my PC got a bad virus...A good friend is a MS engineer & did the installs for me..He did a great job but the issues started...I really need to start from scratch with a new computer...I did do a couple recording using Pro Tools plug in DB33 ...No comparison to VB3Norm
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:32 PM, James Fry groups@jamesfry.com [CloneWheel] wrote:
Pianoteq rocks - the playability is like nothing else (and this trumps the occasional 'electronic' sound of samples for me - even the Kronos and the biggest sample sets on the PC suffer from 'machine-gunning' / static sound that Pianoteq and sounds of old worked hard to eliminate (even the MKS20!). I don't think Hammond players know how good they have it with the latest round of clones and VB3 in that respect.
Surprised VB3 crashes a lot on Win7 for you - does it crash in a standalone host or is it a VB3/ProTools issue, Norm?
On 24 November 2014 at 22:42, Norman Peterson normswwworld@gmail.com [CloneWheel] wrote:
I did try a piano track using the Roland...
Preferred Pianteq plug in..
I have not had the use of VB3 for quite a while since upgrading to WIN 7...
It crashes ProTools...
Sucks....
On Nov 24, 2014 2:37 PM, "jukefox@jukejoynt.com [CloneWheel]" wrote:
Discerning as I've come to know Norman to be, I have a very difficult time believing that he would be as satisfied with the VR-09 clonewheel emulation on his projects has he has been with his ubiquitous (and quite well-done) VB3 tracks. Sure ... I could see him employing it live rather than schlepping around a laptop ... the Roland has a built-in keyboard after all ... but in the studio? Really?!
With a Neumann U-87 in the mic cabinet, why would one track with a VocoPro knockoff of a Shure SM-58, other than perhaps for an intentionally low-fi effect?
Best,
Fox
PS: By the way, FWIW, the most recent S/L video I could find on YouTube was "Money," uploaded 11/16 and, from what I was able to hear, I agree with Hammond Dave's assessment of the relative sound quality of the VR-09. I also concur with Keith that an SK/vent solution would still not approach the relative grandeur of a real-deal classic Hammond console/Leslie rig (at least I think that's what he meant by "No improvement there."). None of this is to "dis" the venerable VR-09 or any of its devotees. With the constant qualifier "for the money," it is undoubtedly a break-through axe. It's just no MOJO in its tonewheel emulation nor Kronos in either clonewheel engine or all-round capability. That's all...and at under a grand, nobody should expect it to be. It seems to be extraordinary bang for the buck.
---In CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Pressure is on...! Ha Ha....
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Norm Peterson
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