From jukefox@jukejoynt.com Fri Jun 06 10:07:08 2014
Subject:Re: Using stereo powered speakers with clone-sim

Hi Bruce ...

I agree with you on these points ... mostly. Where we differ somewhat is in point 2, where you indicate that a stereo speaker cab should sound like a good set of headphones, only louder.

Having been a studio rat for a good portion of my life, I have always preferred cans and monitors that do not color the sound, as opposed to "good-sounding" headphones and monitors. Transparent monitoring devices are really hard to find ... in fact, almost impossible, and when you can, they tend to be priced quite dear. So, I concur if you mean it should sound like a good set of reference cans. If you can't simply set the tone controls to zero and rip the knobs off (unless having to deal with environmental quirks), then its probably not a great amp for your rig.

Some folks here probably recall that I use a MS KBR-3D's stereo channels for smallish events (venues seating fewer than 500) if not running through front-of-house and monitoring through in-ears. I add a subwoof when necessary (if I'm holding down the bass as well). Were I buying today I would likely get the KP-500SN but, at the time I purchased the KBR-3D, rotary sims just were not where they are today and the rotary channel helped significantly. These days the KBR-3D's rotary channel remains idle ... unless a guitar player wants to borrow it for an SRV effect.

For the record, I find the Motion Sound stereo cabinets to be as close to sonically-transparent as any "reasonably priced" stereo cabinet designed for live sound I've heard, when using the "normal" stereo channel, which I use for my MOJO. When using the "expansion" stereo channel (SV-1 and Kronos go here), it simply seems to add air, widen and add a touch of warm excitement ... yet without impacting eq. The "expansion" mode is, of course, defeatable. I highly recommend the Motion Sound gear, especially now that the company is back in the hands of its founders. XP Audio practically wrecked them!

While others here differ, preferring a pair of monitors, I agree with you, Bruce ... the fixed separation (and, in the case of the MS stereo cabs, fixed angle) really makes a huge difference, particularly for clonewheels ... with the peripheral benefit of being able to carry only one speaker cabinet. For me, anyway, it's just the way to go!

Best,
Fox

---In CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Exactly. My philosophy about keyboard reinforcement has always been:

Everything sounds a little better and fuller in stereo, even narrow-field stereo. If the amp and speakers are well suited to keyboard amplification, then any EQ on the amp should be left in the flat/12:00 position. Most keyboards sound terrific through a good set of headphones. The task of the sound system, then, is to sound just like a good set of headphones, but louder.
YMMV.

Regards,

-BW

Bruce Wahler
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On 6/6/2014 6:33 AM, j3mes.eat0n@... mailto:j3mes.eat0n@... [CloneWheel] wrote:

That is similar to what I use - 2x12 bi-amped- and it works fine. I just need to connect two 1/4" jacks from the stereo outputs of the organ and the power cable at the rear. There are no other controls as the organ has EQ, volume, drive etc.