From ljabaa@yahoo.com Mon Feb 03 21:12:39 2014
Subject:Re: numa organ

Jack,
This is the last bit of info I got from KeyB
 
>Leo
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>On Monday, February 3, 2014 9:57 AM, Daniel Forró wrote:
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>It's quite possible there are some undocumented features reachable only through some combined presses of buttons, or pressing some buttons or keys when switching on the instruments. Usually they serve for test or diagnostics reasons and are not described in Owner's manuals, but documented in Service manuals.
>The reason is that they can erase RAM memory, or in some cases when not properly done, damage OS or hardware... So they should be used only by experienced service personnel. This has some sense, and manufacturer's wish is to protect the customers, and the instruments, and themselves, against possible problems. 
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>But to enable entering common edit mode only this way is rather strange. Why such basic feature should be hidden to such degree that it's even not described in the Owner's manual? It's quite possible the instrument is not so bad and has more hidden functions. But why hidden if they help to control the instrument better?
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>Also I would miss detailed MIDI implementation, SysEx implementation including possibility to transmit contents of internal RAM (User presets)... Maybe again hidden behind some undocumented secret codes, or not implemented? Who knows...  
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>Info about the blinking LED is on the page 15...
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>Daniel Forro
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>On 3 Feb, 2014, at 11:10 PM, leo aquilina wrote:
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>>Hello Daniel, Craig, Ken
>>I have read the manual a few times and some parts are confusing.  For example on page 19 it states that the Numa sends on MIDI channels 1 to 3 all parameters and adjustments you make, but does not state that the Fatar button has to be blinking for any data to be transmitted! And this changes the trigger depth. I have been in contact with Studiologic about the percussiion level volume. They tell me to press two tabs (which two?) to enter the edit mode, where in the manual does it say anything about entering the edit mode? Then I am to adjust drawbar 9 (1') to adjust the volume of the percussion. I tried pressing and holding transpose + and - tabs until blinking and then adjust drawbar 9 - no change to the percusion volume. I thought some type of update was needed for this.
>>Also there is no place on the websight to register the organ. They tell me our emails will be my registration. Not sure if this sounds right. I did send them the serial number and purchase date and place.
>>Leo
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>>On Monday, February 3, 2014 8:13 AM, "ccmacdon@rogers.com" wrote:
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>>Daniel,
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>>I think we agree.. as a standalone organ the Numa really does look, sound, feel great.. (one of the best single manual clones I've ever played) but it's quirky in the midi area..
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>>In the organ+controller mode I was unable to use my sustain pedal to control an external synth without having the damper pedal switch leslie speeds on the Numa and a number of other weird problems. Unfortunately I think that studiologic is WAY past the point of doing any more OS updates on the NUMA.. it is what it is!
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>>One other thing to keep in mind is that some people are not midi-savy and have problems understanding midi-implementation documents, including the documentation you referenced. For some it's like a foreign language!!  
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>>Regards,
>>Craig MacDonald
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>>From: Daniel Forró
>>To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com 
>>Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 7:48:25 AM
>>Subject: Re: [CWSG] numa organ
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>>Craig, please understand well. Fortunately I don't have Numa organ (happy owner of Korg CX3), I just respond to our colleague "leo" who complained about it. It's enough to read manual for finding what's wrong, which he probably didn't do. 
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>>Nothing wrong - for this instrument it's normal behavior, based on lack of some features. I'm sure you did good decision. I'm sorry but SUCH poor MIDI implementation nowadays is not acceptable. I don't understand such thinking, like total lack of marketing strategy. How they think to be successful in the comparison with all that competitors on the market? They have only two possibilities - to do OS update as soon as possible or disappear from the market... Or, maybe, just to find organ players who don't need MIDI functionality. Maybe there are some...
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>>But anyway - even such person will probably want to use external keyboard for the second manual, and pedal board... in which case it's also necessary to buy MIDI merger! Studiologic forgot to implement the second MIDI input and merging function.
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>>Daniel Forro
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>>On 3 Feb, 2014, at 9:13 PM, Craig MacDonald wrote:
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>>>Daniel, 
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>>>You have now discovered one of the reasons why I returned my Numa within 30 days of purchasing it almost  3 years ago.. I loved the sound and feel of it.. but the midi implementation was awful.. and at that time the documentation was extremely poor, in fact there was no description of the one of the three dynamic touch modes (and if I recall correctly it was the most important mode to me where you both play organ and transmit midi). 
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>>>Sorry that you're experiencing trouble with the Numa.. if you just want a great sounding it's still high on my list sound and feel wise, but there are definitely some issues.. 
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>>>Craig 
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