From gabru@comsec.net Tue Sep 17 18:32:56 2013
Subject:Re: RE: New Burn demo

Hey Dean,

I always think of the Mojo and VB3 as pretty much the same thing. The Mojo is essentially a VST control surface for the VB3 and as such is a very cool idea. The same can be said for the Hamichord. I am sure the Leslie simulation in the burn is based on the Mojo sim which is based on the VB3 sim, etc……Although I have an XK-3c and Ventilator (and love them), I also have the VB3 VST and really like it. It is a great engine to build a clone on IMHO.

Anyhow….It’s time to BBQ!!

Cheers to All!

Gary

From: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dsurkin@optonline.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 5:40 PM
To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: [CWSG] RE: RE: New Burn demo

Gary:

I was thinking more of the Mojo than the VB3. Your comments made me think of something else: assuming that the Leslie simulation in the Mojo delivers 90% of that of the Burn, then Guido & Andrea probably have considered that Mojo owners won't buy the Burn--their potential customers are owners of Hammonds, Nords, Rolands, i.e., the same potential customers as for the Ventilator.

I have no idea of the size of that market, but I'm guessing it's pretty small.

--Dean L. Surkin

--- In CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com, > wrote:

I really doubt it. I think it unlikely they would add all of the additional circuitry to support the tube and also why would they compete with a product they already sell? Why do you think there has been no development on the VB3 for years and probably never will be? If it is better than what Mojo owners have now they will buy the Burn, if it is already built in they will not. No one is going to update a $49 VST with the same software they already sell in the Mojo (it’s already pretty close) because it would impact sales of the Mojo. To do otherwise would not be good business.

…just my 2 cents YMMV, etc………..

gb

From: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ccmacdon@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:24 PM
To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CWSG] RE: RE: New Burn demo

Dean, I was waiting to see/hear the first Mojo II comment.. ;-)

I would fully expect that this Burn will be built into the next generation of Mojos...

Regards,
Craig MacDonald

From: "dsurkin@..." >
To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 4:20:45 PM
Subject: [CWSG] RE: RE: New Burn demo

And I'm guessing that the Mojo will eventually incorporate whatever code innovations Guido made for the Burn.

--Dean L. Surkin

--- In CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com, > wrote:

Man, that sound good. Of course, it may help that whatever organ he's using as the source sounds incredibly good as well (is it the Hammond featured in the photo?). It would be just an interesting to try this out with a lousy clonewheel or decade-old ROMPLER organ emulator just to hear if it makes a mediocre sound sound better.

I'd love be able get results nearly as good as this from my Xk3c...

--- In clonewheel@yahoogroups.com, > wrote:

Hey for anyone interested Andrea posted another Burn demo which gives you a bit better perspective on the overdrive.. Here it is.. sounds pretty good to me..! https://soundcloud.com/marcoballa/just-sound?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=share&utm_medium=facebook some parts are a bit over the top but some parts are awesome.