From c_schonberger@yahoo.com Wed Mar 06 12:21:30 2013
Subject:Re: better Hammond clones
Hmkay....
BTW: What exactly is your point? Please fill me in.
Quote: "Why should the rest of us be stuck starting with something you like?"
Naw, I don't make the mistake to get my own taste mixed up with the taste of fellow Hammond/clone buffs. I talk to colleagues in real life and I listen to their opinions. There are many things we usually have in common regarding sound. The world isn't devided into "me" and "the others" - but of course you know that.
About holding back: Remember the Korg T3? it came two years later than the M1 with almost exactly the sounds, the M1 was missing or did wrong. That was one of the mosty obvious examples. I even remember reading articles in acknowledged music magazines about manufacturers strategically holding back.
All the best,
Christian
P.S. I still smile about your wording: "logistical pipeline" - I need to memorize that, because it sounds smart. Thanks for the tip
:-)
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From: jjmcs49
To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 7:31 PM
Subject: [CWSG] Re: better Hammond clones
--- In mailto:CloneWheel%40yahoogroups.com, Christian Schonberger wrote:
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> P.S. I really highly appreciate people who defend and use tonewheel tweaking to male the Hammond clones sound closer to thge real deal. I myself altered almost all settings on my XK-3 and it does sound better and closer to the real deal. Yet here is my decades-old argument: I like tweakability, but it shoulod be: you "can" tweak it, and never you "must" tweak it.
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That is absolutely the case today. You just have been unlucky enough that it didn't come out of the box sounding the way you thought it should. I suspect that lucky for most if not all of us, it didn't come out of the box sounding the way you thought it should. Why should the rest of us be stuck starting with something you like? I'm sure there are XK-3 and '3c owners who have never adjusted a thing on theirs and who think it sounds just right. There are also some who haven't adjusted anything because they are afraid either:
a: If they move something it will explode.
or
b: They might not adjust it to what others think is right and then what if everybody finds out.
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The tweaking was not to get the "best" out of the machine, it was trying to get away from the poorness of the sound.
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Sure, they design it to sound poor out of the box.
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I am also convinced (I am beating a dead horse here I know) that keyboard manufacturers are constantly holding back and have the next "improvements" planned years ahead. That is what I would do if I was head of a company: strategically holding back, coming out with just enough to justify a new model and stay close to the competition.
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Again, they design a product and then hold back on it until the components they designed around are becoming obsolete and then they manufacture and launch it.
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If> there was more demand for a truly convincing Hammond sound, manufacturers would respond very fast....
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Just how many weeks do you think it would take you to figure out what the most state of the art components are, design circuit boards that use them, write software to run in the boards, design software that will create the sounds, design a user interface that people will easily figure out how to use, design the hardware and controls to work with the user interface, debug the software and ensure flawless interaction with the hardware and controls, set up manufacturing probably in another part of the world, create all the marketing and support materials, setup a logistical pipeline and supply it, and have it come out of the box sounding exactly like everyone thinks it should causing them to wonder why it has all those adjustments available since none of them are needed. And having them wondering why everyone else is complaining it needs tweaking to sound right and complaining that it would sound better but the manufacturer is holding back their good stuff
for the next version.
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> ....just my usual ramblings,
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Yeah.
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> Christian
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