From simon@alphabeck.co.uk Tue Jun 18 14:11:19 2013
Subject:Re: heresy: nord versus module?

Conversely, most piano sounds use multi-samples these days. Roland have stuck with modelled piano sounds since the mid-1980s, and their sounds have found dedicated fans, especially among those who like to micro-tweak their piano patches. Nord's piano sample sets include pedal-down resonance, key-specific string resonance, key release artefacts and many levels of velocity response per note, while Korg have gone even further and included the thud produced when the sustain pedal is depressed.

Simon

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From: Simon Beck
To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [CWSG] Re: heresy: nord versus module?


Most modern clonewheels use models although earlier ones (the original Korg CX3 and the Viscount D9 for example) simply synthesised the tonewheel sounds using discrete circuitry.

A rare example of a modern professional keyboard which uses sampled organ sounds is the Korg SV-1. It should be noted that these sounds cannot be edited in terms of harmonic content (no drawbars and no facility for drawbar-style adjustment) as they are samples of actual organ registrations. In fact this has been one of the major criticism of these instruments.

There is a sample set commercially available of individual tonewheel waveforms which can be loaded into a suitable sampling keyboard, module or VST sample player, layered and then adjusted exactly like a real drawbar organ, but this would require a huge amount of processing power. It seems that modelling is generally the best technique for producing realistic and adjustable tonewheel sounds.

Simon

> OH yes an so ....WHAT other keyboards use models an what other keyboards use samples ????

A Hammond XK3c for instance ?????

thanks and as always ....my comments are mine an mine alone ....IMHO

Mike ..

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