From goffmac747@aol.com Wed Jul 31 11:01:45 2013
Subject:Re: Can someone ID this clone?

It was this sentence that threw off his digital line.

>> Hammond Clones were new at this time, and I
don't think the idea of using a waterfall keyboard had come up yet.>>

Sometimes redundancy is needed to be clear. Had the line above included "Roland clones"
or "digital clones" it would be clearer off the bat.

And the OP did make mention of the oversight after.

I think Italian clones always suffer the same problem and that is availability.
Back in the 70's unless you went to New York and walked into Sam Ash you would not find a Crumar in Omaha. I know I looked. Crumar was always a word in the wind. No problem getting a real B3 and Leslie in Omaha. They had the latest models on display at Reniers on Dodge St. And unless you called Ash from Omaha and worked out a deal, it would be the only way to get one, and how would you know unless a little bird told you they existed, understanding then was not the 21st century? Even GC in Hollywood didn't have them in the 70's.

Not saying the logistics of a company to be everywhere is easy. Its just an itch you can't scratch that even today is still itchy. Your Italian clones are hard to come by in 21st.

g/

-----Original Message-----
From: deansurkin
To: CloneWheel
Sent: Thu, Aug 1, 2013 1:08 am
Subject: Re: [CWSG] Can someone ID this clone?




The original poster referred to the Roland as being one of the first clones to use digital modeling, and I think he's right. The Korg from the early 1980s used analog circuitry and the top-octave divide-down method. To my ears, the top-octave divide-down method loses realism when playing octaves (e.g., a four or five note chord with the highest and lowest notes one octave apart)--I do not know why, but that's what my ears tell me.

Nevertheless, the Crumar Organizer (which predated the Korg) and the Korg were great instruments for the time. As I mentioned elsewhere, in terms of release date (i.e., U.S. general distribution), the Crumar came first, then the Hammond X-2 and X-5, then the Ace Tone GT7 (which was probably manufactured before the X-5, but I never saw it advertised before the X-5) and a couple of years later, the Korg CX3 with its analog on-board Leslie simulation

--Dean L. Surkin