From ccmacdon@rogers.com Sat Jul 27 08:20:19 2013
Subject:Re: Analog Outfitters ORGANic 261

Typically, the definition of latency (that we think about in the SW/Clone world) pertains to the time it takes between the note being struck and the sound being made.. in this case this is a controller and, in itself, it makes no sound.. so there can be no latency..
 
However, in this case, when they refer to 0 latency they may mean the time between the not being struck and the midi event being created.. which is a very different way of looking at things.. but then you have to ask yourself how is the midi note on event being created on this controller?  Is it from the first or last key contact, or some other device?  How are the midi note events created in this ORGANic 261 controller?  While the keyboard itself may have real Hammond keys and real Hammond key contacts.. that in itself does not entirely capture the feel of the keyboard.. we all know that there will be some latency between the midi note  on event being created (using whatever key contact or device that they use), and the creation of the sound coming from the host software.. and this amount of latency will have a direct affect on the feel of the keyboard.
 
Sorry.. but this really is stretching the truth.  

Regards,
Craig MacDonald


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From: Mark K
To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 10:41:11 AM
Subject: RE: [CWSG] Analog Outfitters ORGANic 261

 

I agree that latency can now be reduced to the point it is not noticeable, say 10 msecs or less but 0? And if not 0, why as a company selling a midi controller make the claim of 0 latency?

Gary Brumm wrote:

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>If a computer and plugin is set up correctly latency shouldn’t be
>an issue. I have used plugins when recording and had no problems.
>The new Crumar Mojo is nothing more than a MIDI keyboard and
>plugin and it seems to work fine. This would be the same thing
>but with much better keyboards, drawbars, and switches. I don’t
>think there is any credibility issue at all. It’s a MIDI controller.
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>g
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>From: mailto:CloneWheel%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:CloneWheel%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark K
>Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 11:48 PM
>To: mailto:CloneWheel%40yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [CWSG] Analog Outfitters ORGANic 261
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>At 100lbs not light, shame they destroy their credibility by claiming NO LATENCY with enough RAM.
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>Gary Brumm > wrote:
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>>This is something I have always thought about doing. There is nothing like real Hammond keyboards and switches!
>>The Analog Outfitters ORGANic 261 - a two manual MIDI controller that weighs in at 100 pounds. In the demo they used
>>one of those damn X stands...with a Z stand this thing would be rock solid!
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>>http://www.ebay.com/itm/Analog-Outfitters-2-Manual-MIDI-Controller-from-Hammond-Organ-ORGANic-261-b3/251308756024?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D261%26meid%3D136969154826248987%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D1088%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D261252126248%26
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>>Gary
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