From jackoverfull@gmail.com Thu Feb 21 01:19:35 2013
Subject:Re: external chorus vibrato?

Something telld me this isn't going to happen. ;)

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Il giorno 21/feb/2013, alle ore 00.49, Christian Schonberger > ha scritto:

> Yep, I agree with that.
>
> I just hope that Hammond-Suzuki one day will make an XK-3(c)
> compatible model which will fit into all those existing XK-3 systems
> - with the following heavily improved:
>
> -Key- and release click with more authentic timbre and at least with
> some "round robin" randomness.
>
> -Heavily improved Chorus-Vibrato.
>
> -Further improved and "animated" overall timbre. This one is the
> hardest to describe. It might have a lot to do how various voicings
> and drawbar settings cause changes in circuit behavior on the
> originals, like changes in tension and current, crosstalk, unwanted
> induction, various forms of drive/overload.... the originals sound
> so much more "alive". Perhaps there is a certain behavior which can
> be pinpointed as a priority.... I only know that sampling tonewheels
> can't be the perfect solution, because they all pass through all
> circuits - unless they are sampled by tapping somewhere into the
> middle of the circuit, keeping them as "pure" as possible. Then in
> the digital clone they are routed and mixed digitally - very likely
> without emulating the complex behavior of the real circuits. Adding
> real tube overdrive and a real Leslie helps, but problems always
> should be solved at the source....
>
> Just wishful thinking I guess,
> Christian
>
> ________________________________
> From: ozmusicman88 ozmusicman88@internode.on.net>
> To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 11:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [CWSG] external chorus vibrato?
>
> Also, on the original tonewheel consoles, the chorus vibrato for the
> lower manual affects the pedal tone as well, and while this is not
> as noticeable as having chorus vibrato on the percussion would be,
> ideally the bass tone should be straight, without chorus vibrato,
> especially with the sustained "string bass"-type tones available on
> clonewheels such as the Hammond XK and SK series.
>
> I have an XK1 and XK3c that I am very happy with except for the
> chorus vibrato, which sounds too warbly no matter how I tweak it,
> and if the chorus vibrato in the XKs and SKs could be improved so
> that it purred and shimmered smoothly like that on an old B3 (and on
> the new Nords, Numas and Mojos that I have heard), I would be first
> in line.
>
> --- ken@... wrote:
> > I've thought of this many times but the problem is that on a
> Hammond, the chorus vibrato affects the organ tone but not the
> percussion tones. With an external generator, you wouldn't be able
> to affect one without the other. Also, sometimes it's nice to have C/
> V on one manual and not the other. These are two good reasons why
> it's not practical to do this externally.
>
> --- c_schonbeger@... wrote:
> >> Did anyone ever think about making an external [chorus vibrato]
> FX-Box to be put into the signal path between the organ and Leslie?
>
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