From jackoverfull@gmail.com Fri Oct 19 19:32:19 2012
Subject:Re: KB Mag Clonewheel roundup


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Il giorno 20/ott/2012, alle ore 03.38, "jukefox"
ha scritto:

> Man, am I dense today ... okay ... I get it. You're saying that you
> would like to, while playing a preset, be able to turn percussion on
> so it will sound on whatever drawbar registration you have preset
> (on manual) when you switch from whatever preset you are playing to
> the manual tab, even if percussion was "off" the last time you
> played on that tab, so you can preset percussion. Right? AND vice
> versa! That would be nice. As it currently functions, the percussion
> light (and function) goes off whenever you switch to a preset other
> than "Manual" and, if it was on when you left "Manual," it pops back
> on when you return.
>
Precisely.
> As far as the percussion goes, I would also like to be able to
> change the percussion-keying source from the 1' to the 1 3/5 or 1
> 1/3, so I could still have that "whistle" available with perc. I've
> done this mod on most of my consoles over the years.
>
Agreed: that would be nice as well. And, actually, given that the "you
can't have percussion and every drawbar at the same time" was a defect
of the oruginal Hammonds, at this point it might be interesting to
have an option to turn it of (just like you can turn off keyclick and
leakage).

As long all of these "improvements" are options, of course, I find
important that any Hammond player sitting at the instrument for the
first time will feel almost home, with everything working as expected
by default.

> This is one of several of the things on the "wish list" in the files
> section of MojoMusicians that we'd like to see in a future OS/
> firmware update. We should probably start bugging Guido for them a
> bit. I'll try to add the preset capability to the list. I know Guido
> and/or Andrea tend to check it periodically.
>
> Best,
> Fox
>
> --- In CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com, Jackoverfull
> wrote:
> >
> > Actually i wrote I'm quite OK with how the C/V works now (exactly
> like on a "real" Hammond), it's the percussion state that can't be
> changed while I'm using a preset. Again, I'm not searching for some
> exotic feature, like others may want to do or like I'm doing in
> other areas, I'd just like it to work exactly like a real Hammond
> does (that is: the ability to turn off percussion so when I switch
> back to the manual preset it doesn't sound or do the opposite,
> always without affecting the sound of the preset I'm playing with).
> >
> > Il giorno 19/ott/2012, alle ore 21.41, jukefox ha scritto:
> >
> > > Hi Jack,
> > >
> > > I've been having a similar discussion with Guido on Facebook and
> through our MojoMusicians group the past couple of days, so it's
> somewhat of a coincidence that it's coming up here.
> > >
> > > Percussion on our consoles works only on the B preset live
> drawbars of the Swell (upper) manual. I'm okay with Mojo's working
> only with the manual drawbars on the swell manual, but still think
> it would be really cool if we could save all setting states in our
> presets, including rotary and c/v, as well as percussion, and that
> such things would respond to changes while working within that preset.
> > >
> > > I agree with you ... it would be nice if c/v state were saved
> with presets ... but I'm a bit confused about your c/v concerns. I'm
> running version 2.1 and the c/v behaves exactly like my B-3 ... in
> other words, if it's switched on on the upper manual and off on the
> lower, it stays on on the upper and off on the lower, no matter
> which preset I select. Does yours act differently?
> > >
> > > I would find it extremely useful if the c/v state could be saved
> with the presets though, allowing for instance V-2 on one manual and
> C-3 on another ... but instantly over-ridable using top panel
> controls. But this, I fear, steps out of the clone-realm by offering
> functionality not found on the 20-some instruments Mojo emulates.
> But, then again, the instruments it emulates have two more sets of
> drawbars and weigh 350#, which are features Mojo doesn't have, so I
> suppose this pendulum could swing both ways.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Fox
> > >
> > > --- In CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com, Jackoverfull
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It could, no doubt. On the other hand some, like me, expect
> the C/V to stay as it is when you switch preset.
> > > > The leslie simulation is more problematic, given you may have
> an hardware switch connected.
> > > >
> > > > What I'd really like (and still think is an error in
> implementation) is the ability to turn on or off the percussion
> while you are using a preset. NOT applying it to the preset, just
> changing the state and see the new state applied when you go back to
> the manual preset, just like you can do on real hammonds,
> hamichords, keybs and probably nords. Right now when you switch to a
> preset the percussion button is disabled completely.
> > > >
> > > > Others may want the ability to enable the percussion on
> presets, of course…
> > > >
> > > > Il giorno 19/ott/2012, alle ore 04.20, jukefox ha scritto:
> > > >
> > > > > I must have missed it Jack ... deepest apologies if this is
> a re-post.
> > > > >
> > > > > I still enjoyed the article. Thought it odd that Fortner
> called the preset implementation a "con" on the Mojo. You can't
> adjust drawbars on a real Hammond and change those preset sounds on
> the fly (you'd probably need motorized "flying-fader" style drawbars
> to do this right), so I do not know why this would be considered a
> negative on a clone.
> > > > >
> > > > > By the same token, I would like to see Mojo store c/v,
> percussion and rotary sim states in the presets...which a classic
> console Hammond won't do either. While this would all be nice to
> have, I don't see it as a "con," and believe that it could be done
> in an OS/firmware update.
> > > > >
> > > > > Again, sorry if it's a re-post.
> > > > >
> > > > > Peace,
> > > > > Fox
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com, Jackoverfull
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think it was posted here or on MojoMusician a few days
> ago as well.
> > > > > > Il giorno 18/ott/2012, alle ore 20.15, jukefox ha scritto:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Saw this on Guido's Facebook page ... haven't read it
> yet, but thought it might be of interest to some of us. This is a
> crosspost from MojoMusicians Group.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.keyboardmag.com/article/dual-manual-madness/149647
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Peace,
> > > > > > > Fox
> > > > > > >
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