From gabru@comsec.net Tue Oct 16 02:06:51 2012
Subject:Re: Which are the best / cheap active monitors to use with Crumar M

This is 2012…the only sub should be in the PA and the engineer should know how to make you both sit in the mix…..
….if you are lucky!! ☺

Cheers!

From: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of M Acantralto
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 12:41 AM
To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CWSG] Re: Which are the best / cheap active monitors to use with Crumar M

So with a Subwoofer you must have to be very careful an not step on the Bass players toes ...an
fingers.....its a fine line ....I think...

Mike

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From: Gary Brumm >
To: "CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com" >
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 11:38 PM
Subject: RE: [CWSG] Re: Which are the best / cheap active monitors to use with Crumar M

"12 inch PA speakers are not designed to handle the deep bas"

You can't really make this a blanket statement. In cheap MI gear this may be true. As you get into higher quality
equipment you find excellent bass from 10" and 12" speakers. Usually the 15" two way systems you find in a music
store have very loose sounding flabby bass. In the higher end of the "music store" speakers QSC makes an outstanding
10" and 12" (K10 & K12) powered full range speaker. If you really want to kick heavy pedals they have a 2 12" sub that
is powered, about $700 and sounds great for the price. Heck, one of the most popular bass guitar rigs in history was
the Ampeg SVT with the 10" cabinets...granted they had 8 10"s in each cabinet so not really a fair comparison but more
bass than you can imagine and 10" speakers respond quicker than 15" or 18"s so the bass is nice and tight. I think if you
really want to have good sounding pedals you need a good sub or subs in your PA system. You don't want too much sound
level on stage or you will spoil your FOH mix.

Gary

> -----Original Message-----
> From: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Frederick Somerville
> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 11:05 PM
> To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [CWSG] Re: Which are the best / cheap active monitores to use with
> Crumar M
>
> I would go for a system with two satelites and dedicated sub that handle the
> lows.
> 12 inch PA speakers are not designed to handle the deep bas when you play the
> pedal tones (or route pedals to lower man) I have two Celestion KR2 + a
> behringer 90 Bass amp + Behringer X over and a stero amp.
> I used the sub out to the bass amp and set the cutoff frequency to 200.
>
> HK Audio has some powerful systems.
> I am curious how a dual nano 300 system would do (pehaps with the addition of
> a basscombo amp) /Frederick
>
> 2012/10/16 mb.grupos >
>
> > **
> >
> > Hi Frederick,
> > I usually play at Jazz Festivals and in some concert halls, but as
> > things are tough, I intend to play also in some bars and small venues.
> >
> > For festivals and concert halls I'll take my 145, so I just need the
> > monitors for small rooms and jazz bars.
> > I think that a pair of monitors with power 250 watts rms (with a 12 "
> > woofer) will be enough, right?
> > My project is a modern jazz trio - Organ, sax and drums, it plays not
> > so loud!
> > But some of my tunes need some power. Please take a look here:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFZFe48NGEM&feature=player_detailpag
> > http://youtu.be/bjgW9wvixuU
> >
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AZoEAnMjhI&feature=player_detailpagee
> >
> > Thanks friends,
> > manuel beleza
> >
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> >
>
> --
> MVH Frederick Somerville
>
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