From jackoverfull@gmail.com Tue May 29 14:03:06 2012
Subject:Re: Neo Vent/VB3 rotary sim control

Regarding the VB3 question, I think it's doable, since the speed of the rotors are fully customizable. I've actually seen it done the other way (slow bass rotor, fixed tremble one).
Il giorno 29/mag/2012, alle ore 21.41, jukefox ha scritto:

> Hi guys...I'm certain this has been discussed before, but I do not
> remember the verdict and cannot seem to find the threads regarding this
> quickly in the archives because, due to the sheer volume of Vent
> discussion (and the high activity level of this list in general),
> searches reveal waayyyy tooo many hits, irrespective of term
> specificity.
>
> I'm considering jumping on the Vent bandwagon for late-night home
> recording, but I have two simple "yes or no" questions, to which "no"
> answers pretty much negate Vent usefulness for my particular
> application:
>
> 1) Is the Vent MIDI controllable? I do not see a MIDI port of any sort
> in the photos on Neo's site, seemingly indicating that it is not.
>
> 2) Is the lower rotor portion of the sim capable of being switched to
> stationary, (or alternatively "fast/off") operation while the upper horn
> maintains fast/chorale function.
>
> I'd like to read the same answers from you VB3 users regarding that
> VSTi's rotary sim capabilities as well.
>
> The reasoning behind this line of questioning is two-fold. For query 1,
> my DAW certainly will allow me to record my B-3's audio (via line-out)
> or the Kronos' CX3 engine directly, either processed through an external
> box (such as a Ventilator) first or later via an effects send. An
> effect (either a Vent or VST sim) should likewise be controllable
> independently (by way of a concurrent midi track) to kick in/out
> precisely when I would like. It seems to me that such a control option
> should be part of the current Vent product, or alternatively, a
> "Ventilator Rack," designed specifically as a studio effect so that, in
> a recording environment, the rotary's dynamics performance is
> repeatable, irrespective of the program material (audio) it is
> processing. The lack of this utility would seem to be quite a large
> oversight on Neo's part, if they intended this unit to become a "must
> have" audio processing product for anything other than live performance,
> at least to me.
>
> As to the second inquiry, unplugged lower rotors have been intrinsic to
> my "sound" and playing style since the 60s. Some refer to this as "the
> Memphis Sound," although I started doing this in Tulsa and had never
> heard of "the Memphis Sound" prior. My intent was to clean up the lows
> and mid-range portions of our sound and avoid some of the muddiness I
> heard in other bands with Hammonds playing our circuits.
>
> It would be a bit of an inconvenience to me to have to work around the
> inability to have a stationary down-firing woofer by creating two
> separate tracks (one with the overall effect "on" where desired and one
> with the effect "stopped" throughout) and having to merge them in post
> after processing each through the appropriate high/low band pass filters
> set at 800hz (a 122's crossover frequency) to retain/remove the desired
> harmonic content.
>
> It is doubtful that such VST effects would produce a high degree of
> authenticity, unless they are able to faithfully recreate the proper
> roll-off characteristics of 122/145 series Leslie crossovers...which are
> undoubtedly modelable in a VST effect (they had to do something similar
> for upper/lower rotor discretion in the Vent and VB3 effects)...and
> perhaps reproducible in a fourth-order Butterworth filter emulation or
> some such...but this is minutiae of knowledge I do not possess, despite
> my desire to implement its potential results.
>
> Is someone on this list able to enlighten me as to how this might work
> in a studio processing environment, in the event that the current crop
> of VST effects don't have these bases covered...which it's looking more
> and more to me as if they don't.
>
> Bruce? Steve? Lorrie? (haven't heard much from you two lately) Norm?
> Craig? Simon Beck? Anyone with relevant (reli-Vent?) studio
> experience????!
>
> Best,
> Fox
>
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