From hammond321@yahoo.com Sat Jul 14 17:17:28 2012
Subject:Re: HOAX = Clonewheel in a chip

Might be nice if the guy came up with a name other than "HOAX"

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From: rafael2pop
To: CloneWheel
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 4:05 PM
Subject: [CWSG] Re: HOAX = Clonewheel in a chip


 

Thanks Bruce,

Your post let us get something more clarified.

Hope other members realize that HOAX isn't hoax but a new B3 clone

You're right,  seems to be a new name in the clone progress timeline

Should be remembered that CWSG began as VOCE support group
and mostly of our efforts began referred to those products.

Can understand reading your post why there aren't drawbar possibilities
for VOCE products for models before V3 module

Probably they had made with discrete componentes rather than a using tonewheel emulation

on an IC ( aka 'chip')

Got surprised that my VOCE micro-BII has variable click something that read isn't present in Korg BX/CX

Being tough to discern mp3 comparison between clonewheel and the real stuff speaks good of the HOAX

Now to wait which brand is the first one to offer all teh pieces together without the help of a rocket scientist.

Best,

Rafael

 

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Re: HOAX = Clonewheel in a chip
Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:47 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Bruce Wahler" drawbars
Hi All,

This is a pretty cool setup, but not a completely new idea. One could
argue that this is the next generation of the Voce V3, which had a
digital IC which emulated the tonewheel system -- all 91 wheels at the
same time. (I don't know if the Voce IC was analog or digital,
though.) I'm not certain, but it wouldn't surprise me if both Korg and
Roland used the same approach.

It does have some new twists:

1. The keyboard scanner is built in to the IC. Most clonewheels have
a secondary CPU which -- among other things -- scans the keyboard
and sends the results to the tone generator IC. Putting it all in
one IC probably saves 3-5mSec of latency. (I don't buy the "no
latency" claim, because scanning a keyboard digitally has *some*
latency, but it's certainly less in this approach.)

2. The velocity-based 'random' key click is a great addition. I
remember talking with the Korg program manager about whether the
BX-3/CX-3 could do variable key click. He said the processing
power wasn't there, but it was coming someday. We agreed that it
was about "10 years off." That was in January 2006. Well, guess
what? We were off by about three years, assuming that someone
turns HOAX into a full product soon.

I think I can tell the real B-3, but it's close enough that I'm not
certain! (I think the Hammond is #1, and the HOAX #2 in the first clip.)

Regards,

-BW

Bruce Wahler
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On 7/14/2012 4:23 AM, Tom Sellers wrote:
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> wtf?