From jackoverfull@gmail.com Wed Jan 11 01:40:44 2012
Subject:Re: Where is the new NORD going to fit?


Il giorno 11/gen/2012, alle ore 00.57, James Fry ha scritto:

> >
> Who runs a B3 straight into headphones (no poweramp) or into studio
> monitors direct? Nobody. I suspect you will be hard pressed to tell the
> difference of the raw instruments. What is going to suck is the leslie sim.
> There is no way that a leslie sim through a mono speaker (or even a stereo
> pair) is ever going to sound like anything other than a recording or a
> simulation. Maybe if we had a 3 direction set up, with 6 individual
> channels (to simulate the different directions the sound goes in, and the
> difference between the upper and lower rotors) we'd get a lot closer. But
> then you might as well hump a real leslie or two with you.
>
No doubt about this, but the leslie simulation is were most clone comes short.
As Fredrick said, the one of VB3 is quite good (the best i've heard so far, especially since the latest update, one year ago) but still sounds like a recorded leslie, not a live one. And many simulations can be spotted as fake even if you compare them with a recorded leslie.

I don't have a Leslie and even if I had one I don't have a car big enough to load it and even if I had that it would be impractical to carry it around most of the times. So if I'm going to play through a clone it will have to be capable of a good leslie emulation as well.
>
> Key click from the 9 busbars closing - each strike of the note giving a
> different tone, though the clones do a good simulation of it, particularly
> those that model it on the velocity of the key press (and presumably on
> note-off too, if they are that sophisticated).
>
> The big one is being able to press notes partially and only have some of
> the tones sound. On smears and smooth legato chord runs this would come
> into play. I'm not good enough for this to bother me though - I'm happy
> just to get the right flipping notes! :-)
>
Good point. I've noticed that with VB3 you can partially release a key to be able to play a note again without playing the percussion again, but I don't think it goes down to that level of detail. Actually, I doubt it's actually possible with the currently available hardware.
>
> An 8 note chord will have a maximum midi latency of 5ms. In practice you
> wont have played all the notes at the same time anyway, so the latency is
> likely in the region of 1-2ms. Then there is digital audio latency (1-2ms
> again on decent setups) plus whatever is in the generation side, but the
> clone hardware suffers from this too.
>
So…? Sure, there is latency, as there is "latency" if you just step back from the speakers, but not enough to be noticed. Not by me, anyway.

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