From frederick.somerville@gmail.com Tue Jan 10 16:19:00 2012
Subject:Re: Where is the new NORD going to fit?

Pre Leslie simulation signal - I think this signal should be spot on in a
good clone.
Nord C2 very good
VB3 - Probably a snap truer than the C2 - they have added the delay between
the key contacts (key click max dealy menu option)
I bet the XK3 is very close
The NewB3 is probably sprot on as well.
The new Nord that will be shown at Namm - I hope we will be astounded.

Then you push that signal into you simulation and if that is done right you
should end up with the sound of a perfectly miked 122/147/145 or what ever
type the designers choose to emulate.

When it comes to leslie simulation the NeoVentilator and the VB3 is very
good.
I often use the VB3 just as a Leslie effect for my Nord C1.

But I would not be surprised if we will find that the Nord guys have done
improvements in this area when they release the new Nord at Namm

> The B3 has some very special things from a playability point that you
only notice and come to live if you have played one. There are certain
things you can do on a B3 that most clones falls a little short in
reproducing. This is the reason hammond went the whole way (almos) in
recreating the B.

> You're probably right, although at the moment I can't name one of these
> things.

One example - Most clones fail short when you start to play percussively on
them. Latency is issue here. A B3 is instantaneus.

>
Absolutely not. I've been using VB3 for over 2 years now, often with a very
> busy computer, and have never experienced latency.
> When the computer is very busy (eg: playing while doing a 3d rendering in
> backgroundů) the sound will pop, some signals will get lost (missing or
> sticky note) but I've never experienced latency with the proper setup.
> While I was trying to find the right setup on the mojo I found a couple of
> hosts were you could hear the latency (I've currently settled for cantabile
> lite, minihost performed quite well too).
>
> I will try the cantablite - the transimitting time of Midi is still a
limitation though.
1 midi message is three bytes 28 bits = 0.007 ms (if i calculated it
right). Slap a key and you need 1.4 ms to turn it on and off.
Slap or rake a number or press down 10 keys. Since it is a serial interface
it has the speed it has.
I wonder if any one out there measured the latency in a B3 :)
Rake the keyboard of a midi controlled clone and you need to send lots of
on and of messages. I doubt it this can keep up with what a B3 does.

> The computer you used for the test was most likely not properly sat up for
> low-latency audio playback. Do such a test on a computer that us ready
> (with PCs that can be hardůbut any mac built in the last decade, even with
> the builtin soundcard, will require no configuration at all) and latency
> problems with VB3 will disappear completely.
>
> Exept for the Midi latency that is inhearant.

The good thing about the new Nord with 4 sets of drawbars is that now we
can play the same way as you do on a B3 you can preplan the next sound on
the inactive set of drawbars and switch when the time is right. But if
something is a little off you just correct it very fast having the physical
thing.

And a 4 drawbarset dual manual organ at 15 kg is the touring organists
dream. At least those of us that do not have roadies :)

MVH Frederick Somerville

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