From satturnsc2@yahoo.com Sun Jan 08 06:56:55 2012
Subject:Re: It runs in the family?
In Heaven the B3's are free, come with an eternal warranty and are made with balsa wood and this metal: http://inhabitat.com/scientists-develop-worlds-lightest-metal-100x-lighter-than-styrofoam/...God told me so.....
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From: j a
To: "CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2012 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: [CWSG] It runs in the family?
From the mid 70's through the mid 80's I played out with various combinations of B3's, Fender Rhodes, Leslies, Fender amps, a variety of string machines and synths, and a couple different acoustic-electric pianos.
I guess my point is that you generally play what's available, what you can afford, and what is appropriate for whatever style of music you're playing. In the 70's and 80's what was available was hardware and if you were a keyboard player and wanted to play out, that's what you played. You carried the B and the Rhodes, and if there were steps or high stages or whatever you just dealt with it.
Digital instruments have brought more choice to the gigging musician, but the bottom line usually will end up with the instrument of choice being the "real thing" if the band or artist can afford it, or if the "real thing" is part of the performance image. You probably won't see Grace Potter playing a Numa or Nord or SK1... you just won't. And back in the day Jackson Browne would almost always play a Steinway or Baldwin grand, not a Rhodes.
A B3 clone, whether hardware or software, can't ever be a B3, nor can it be "better" than a B3 since it only is an emulation. Even if it were a perfect emulation it wouldn't be "better".... just the same, at least sonically.
It's fun haggling back and forth about "real" vs. "clone", but I'll bet that B3's and Steinways will still be onstage and smokin' long after we've all gone to play in whatever venue the next world brings... and there just might be a B there too.
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From: Jackoverfull
To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2012 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [CWSG] It runs in the family?
Same problem here.
Actually, I had problems fitting a single keyboard where I stay…
Il giorno 08/gen/2012, alle ore 01.05, James Fry ha scritto:
> This would have been true in the 40s/50s/60s/70s too with the "real deal".
> The hardware synths age quickly too, and fail. I've lovingly looked after
> my Triton, but it now sounds dated (especially that appalling piano) and
> I've had to repair outputs several times despite being VERY careful with
> it. The contemporary replacement is getting on for the amount of a kidney.
>
> That said, this digital nonsense is convenient. If I had a B3, I'd have to
> figure out how to get it down 14 steps to my rear patio, and up another
> awkward step that would preclude the typical lifting gear into my living
> room. And that's about as far as it would go. I could take round the front
> and into my shed, but that's barely big enough to hold a B3 let alone the
> leslie and pedals - and I'd have to figure how to get it up a 20 degree
> grass bank that is normally soggy (hey, it's the UK right, it's always wet
> here).
>
> You guys in the US with your cheap Hammonds ($1500 for an A100 and leslie!
> OMG) and large houses that are practical for Hammond ownership are the envy
> of us that would kill for a place that was big enough for ONE Hammond organ
> (and/or a decent piano). I have to settle with an upright (in the living
> room, so I can rarely play it) and lightweight clones.
>
> And I'm sure you could easily build a rugged shock mounted PC / VST
> hardware player into a B3 style case and have it just as robust as a real
> B3 (if such a thing floats your boat - I would find it a massive PITA for
> gigging).
>
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