From jackoverfull@gmail.com Wed Feb 01 17:16:24 2012
Subject:Re: Nord C2D


Il giorno 02/feb/2012, alle ore 01.22, Frederick somerville ha scritto:

> So based on those two recordings you can judge the C2d and the Mojo?
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Not really, in my opinion.
However we can get quite a detailed impression of the sound from what was released online. Especially since even guys from Nord declared "it doesn't sound that different" from the C2.
We still haven't heard the new leslie simulation, of course. Personally I'm not really impressed by the improved percussion, as far it's possible to judge by those recording.

> The mojo recording is as far as I can understand on of their official promos. Recorded in a well controlled environment hopefully using a production model set up to sound its best. Also there is no part where you hear the organ alone. With the human ear being so easily distracted by masking sounds I would say the comparison is not really fair.
> There is a couple of vids with a Hammichord and an Hammond played through the same leslie. And by the sound of that vid (with all the limitstions) the Hammichord is really close.
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At this point there are A LOT of Hamichord (just one "m"…a common mistake) and Mojo videos around, official and unofficial (I've done 4 unofficial ones myself), some with the latest engine.

> Ther is on test that could be done that would hold from the sound perspective.
> Set up a clone and a hammond exactly the same. Play them exactly the same.
> Then reverse the phase of one 180 degres and add them. If the result is absolutely zero they are identical.
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Not really: the rotation of the tone generator will change the sound anyway, even if you did that test on the same hammond the recordings would sound different.

> Then there are the playability factors such as latencys in the system and how well the touch responsiveness is mimiced in the clone. Even if a clone or vst nails the sound but it does not react correctly to percussive then you still would miss something - if you are used to what a Tonewheeler deliveres.
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Speaking of touch responsiveness, i remember some discussion a few weeks ago about the fact that the SK2 Hammond emulation didn't start to play a not until the key was fully pressed and that someone asked if it's the same on the Mojo/Hamichord.
I answered that it is and that velocity actually impacts on the keyclick, however I forgot to test what happens when you disable the velocity. Tried today: the note starts as soon you begin to press the key. Best of both words, then, personally I prefer the slower response but if you want you can use the faster one (that should actually be on by default, if memory serves). Also, with the latest firmware update you can chose if to enable the velocity only on one of the manuals or on both.
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> One thing I do know is which clones I have not tested my self in a controlled environment with a good sounding B3 as a ref. I know for certain I have NOT tried the
> Hammichord
> Mojo
> KeyB in any shape or form
> Diversi/keyb
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Isn't it just a rebranded KeyB?

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