From gabru@comsec.net Sat Dec 22 16:20:11 2012
Subject:RE: Long keys (Was: Hammond B3MK2)

That's why I referenced the cheaper X stands. Although I don't like X stands in general there are some
sturdier ones that are pretty sturdy. I could jump on top of the Z stand I have now and it wouldn't budge
....if I were 20 years younger and had a running start that is! I have liked the Z stand concept since the old
days of my VOX Jaguar! :)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jackoverfull
> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 4:14 PM
> To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [CWSG] Long keys (Was: Hammond B3MK2)
>
> There is X stand and X stand.
>
> Mine is sturdier than my organ legs...
> The problem is that pedals would never fit, so when i use those I have to take
> legs anyway.
>
> Il giorno 23/dic/2012, alle ore 01.10, Gary Brumm ha scritto:
>
> > I agree with Jim, the XK-3c I have feels very much like a
> > B3.....however....I find that feeling is completely lost if you use it
> > on anything other than a rock solid stand. Those cheaper X stands are
> > terrible. I use a Z stand that works well and I get no movement at
> > all. FWIW
> >
> > From: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of jjmcs49
> > Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 7:54 AM
> > To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [CWSG] Long keys (Was: Hammond B3MK2)
> >
> > The keys in both the New B3 and the XK-3 series extend 2" under the cover. A
> picture can be seen here:
> >
> > http://www.hammond.eu/default.aspx#/Download
> >
> > Click Brochure and the B3 Classic PDF icon. The XK-3 & '3c use the
> > same keybed but minus the 10 contact circuitry
> >
> > IIRC the keys in a vintage Hammond extend 5". I have my M2 positioned next
> to my XK-System so I can play them simultaneously and I can't feel any
> difference.
> >
> > --- In
> CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com,
> Bruce Wahler > wrote:
> > >
> > > Regarding the Hammond keybed vs. clones ...
> > >
> > > I've always thought that this is a major piece of why a Hammond
> > > plays 'differently' than a clone: the keybed is substantial in mass,
> > > but remarkably light to the touch, without feeling 'cheap.'.
> > > Unfortunately, since clones are driven to be small, light, and
> > > low-cost the idea of using long, fairly light keys in a clone doesn't fit the
> overall goals.
> > > I'm sure that the issues could be overcome, just as the lack of long
> > > wood keys has been overcome in many higher-end digital pianos.
> > > However, the market for digital pianos is much larger, and it's hard
> > > for a keybed manufacturer (or clone builder who wants to go it
> > > alone) to justify the time and expense of tooling up to simulate the physics of
> longer keys.
> > > But, you never know what some clone manufacturer might do.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > -BW
> > >
> > > Bruce Wahler
> > > Ashby Solutions.com^(TM)
> > > bw@...
> > > http://music.ashbysolutions.com
> > > 877.55.ASHBY (877.552.7429)
> > >
> > > On 12/22/2012 9:05 AM, Jackoverfull wrote:
> > > > Agreed! Same goes for the 147!