From jackoverfull@gmail.com Sat Dec 15 07:45:49 2012
Subject:Re: We all hear differently

I'd like to point out that Joey left Suzuki for the KeyB and actually
worked with Elvio to have it sounding more to his liking.

Similarly, Tony Monsco left Suzuki for the Mojo.

So, those two can play with basically everything but still care about
the sound of their instruments…Shouldn't reveal "common mortals"
something? ;)

Anyway, the sound is the first thing the listener hears and something
that has great effect on him, for me having a great sound has always
been paramount.

Sent from iPhone

Il giorno 15/dic/2012, alle ore 15.16, "Chuck"
ha scritto:

> I disagree completely.
> I'll use Joey again.
> If I hear Joey play a Hammond clone and the C/V is not what I like
> then I'm not a guy who would run out and buy that piece of gear. It
> doesn't make Joey a hack.
> Your statement implies that my opinion of the VB3 C/V and the SK1,
> based on what I heard, is my inability to play it correctly?
>
> You use what you like and I'll use what I like and I won't blame you
> if it sounds like crap if you are a decent player. If you aren't a
> good player I won't blame the clone.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dennis
> To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 3:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [CWSG] We all hear differently
>
> Norm, I agree with you and think you probably had the same budget I
> did for keyboards when you started playing. There were two keyboard
> players fighing for jobs back when I was young with hair. His dad
> was rich, mine wasn't. If he needed a sound he bought whatever
> keyboard they made it with. I had to coax it out of a korg poly 61
> (even hammond for a time). I learned a lot more than he did about
> getting a good sound and usually had a better sound than he did with
> the best and latest keys, because he didn't have to "learn" them.
> For a while I liked to go shooting sporting clays with a shotgun. We
> always blamed our lack of scoring success on the fact that we were
> shooting open chokes (harmonic beating of the sporting clays world).
> Then one day a pro shooter was behind us. He asked if he could try
> my shotgun out and using the same ammo and same open chokes he
> powdered every clay pigeon he shot at, and they were far away shots.
> It taught me a lot about the fact that it ain't the gun, it's the
> guy behind it. Same goes for hammond. The same korg cx3 I use that
> drives me crazy does wonders in John Medeski's hands. I always go
> back and listen to his videos using one when I think I absolutely
> NEED a new clone. My budget for a new one isn't much better than it
> was way back!
> By the way I still have crumar Traveler 1 hooked up in the studio
> and love it!
>
> --- In CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com, Norman Peterson
> wrote:
> >
> > I have NEVER found any clone since using my Crumar Organizer in
> the 70's to
> > be unusable.
> > Blasphemy!!
> > Our job as keyboardists is to take these tools & make them work
> musically
> > within the structure of a song..
> > I will never ever be a slave to how i think a Hammond B3 sounds..
> > Meaning...
> > If i have coaxed the sound I believe to be correct out of any
> keyboard or
> > software I am using then that is my Hammond sound..
> > It's just my nature i guess...Make whatever you have work...
> > If you can't make it work get another tool..
> > I just wanna play...these discussions are interesting but i think
> sometimes
> > that some of you think too much!!
> > This is art...
> > Harmonic beating???
> > Not concerned!!
> > OK...Off my soapbox...
> > All respects Mark K...you have been so good to me..
> > Always appreciated...Just had to post a very rare "mini-rant"..
> > Norm
>
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