From aevett1@yahoo.com Tue Nov 01 08:15:33 2011
Subject:Re: The Behringer Challenge
Norm,
IMO, Your 'stupid little cheap speakers' are perfectly fine.
I worked with a band, a couple years back, that used four, powered Behringer 12" cabinets for monitors. They sounded good onstage; vocals and instruments could be heard clearly. I recently saw the frontman/bandleader of the group. Among other things, I asked him about those monitors; still working fine.
Sure, I'm aware of problems some fellow players have had with Behringer gear. But I've also been on several gigs where 'higher end' stuff broke down as well.
Regarding quality, headroom issues, etc: from a few of engineers, repair techs, and music dealers with whom I've spoken 1) There were more QC issues, and breakage on earlier Behringer gear; 2) There are certain pieces made by Behringer that don't have the quality components, headroom, etc. of other gear; but this is normal throughout the industry between different brands of equipments; ergo, my Subaru wagon is not a high end Acura SUV, but it does what I need it to do quite well - and is much more than many folks have these days.
One of my former keyboard students had a Behringer keyboard amp in her practice space. I had a chance to hear it both by itself, and within a band context; seemed to do the job quite well. I had never heard one prior to that. Live, I sometimes use a small Edirol mixer in conjunction with a QSC K10. For some upcoming festival gigs next summer (the warp speed, multi - band, set up/tear down crap) I may pick up a Behringer 12" keyboard amp - soon as I free up some cash from selling off a module I don't really need right now.
I've sold off my Traynor K4, and Mackie LM3204 Line Mixer. Have a one space, Behringer RX1602 line mixer in my rack, for larger gigs. That has worked out well over the past two years. Also have a Behringer HA4700 headphone distribution amp in my home workspace; so far, so good.
allan evett
keyboardist/pianist
music teacher
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>From: mark k
>To: "CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com"
>Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2011 2:03 AM
>Subject: Re: [CWSG] Re: The Behringer Challenge
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>Norm I am equally pleased with my $200 Behringer mixer. Yamaha, Allen and Heath and Mackie all started at $600 plus for similar functionality. If I had to spend $600 I wouldn't now have a mixer.
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>The critics continue to point out that when it breaks (and everything eventually stops working irrespective of cost) it will not be worth fixing. If repairability was the issue I would not have most of the appliances in my house from the toaster through to a large flat panel TV, including the PC on which I am typing this email. Mostly however I am surprised at how long these low cost appliances last and the decision whether to replace or repair (if an option at all) when they finally fail is usually a no-brainer given either the improved functionality of a new item (e.g. TV) or the reduction in cost of items that offer little in the way of functional enhancements (e.g. dishwasher, fridge although new items are usualy more energy efficient). Usually the cost of repair is too close to the replacement cost that repair isn't isn't a viable option.
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>However to add some skin to the debate I will undertake to report to this group immediately when the Behringer DI box purchased about 18 months ago or the mixer purchased last week fails.
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>Cheers
>
>Mark
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>From: Norman Peterson
>To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2011 3:46 PM
>Subject: Re: [CWSG] Re: My new Behringer speakers
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>*There are some real assholes in this group. I always try to be nice &
>positive.*
>*At least i got 53 responses on my post that I liked my stupid little cheep
>speakers..*
>*Happy Halloween
>*
>On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Keith H Clark wrote:
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>> **
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>> Sounds like a proper signal for them;)
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