From gabru@comsec.net Sat Mar 26 16:14:37 2011
Subject:RE: Numa vs Nord C2 [Help!]

The harmonic beating was a byproduct of that old design. There were no such problems with harmonic beating in the new XK series (although there were of course some other issues).
You are absolutely right what matters is how quickly they resolve the issues. This seems to be a quality control issue since from what I understand not all units are
exhibiting the same behavior.

From: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tfosselm
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:56 AM
To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CWSG] Numa vs Nord C2 [Help!]

I don't think I recall ever seeing a new product come out that didn't have some 'bugs' in it. What matters is how quickly they are resolved. It looks like Studiologic is on top of this. How many years did it take for Hammond clones to get rid of their harmonic beating?

--- In CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com, Gary Brumm wrote:
>
> It is one of the cheaper clones….that was his point……however I don’t remember that many problems with the Hammond XK-1.
> It reminds me of the cheap Italian synths like Siel. They sounded good for the price but were buggy and didn’t hold up well long term.
> We’ll have to wait to see what their longevity will be. It may just be rev 1 software that will be updated over time.
>
> From: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tfosselm
> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 5:13 AM
> To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [CWSG] Numa vs Nord C2 [Help!]
>
> "...a product that has been engineered to hit a precise price point." That would include every product that has ever been manufactured.
>
> --- In CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com, djacques@ wrote:
> >
> > Don't be depressed. You are just one of the unconsidered consumers who will purchase a product that has been engineered to hit a precise price point.
> >
> > Looking at the history of manufacturing, products are designed primarily to address the basic needs of the consumer (the sound engine), while throwing in a few bells and whistles that separate it from its competition. All structured within a certain price point.
> >
> > Studiologic is correct on responding that your criticisms are part of the "normal" function of the Numa. They know that these are design compromises. But they weighed them against the almighty price point.
> >
> > Too bad, but its been happening since the Chevy Corvair.
> > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "melvinnich"
> > Sender: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 11:14:22
> > To: >
> > Reply-To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [CWSG] Numa vs Nord C2 [Help!]
> >
> > Dear Shawn and all,
> >
> > Thank you for your message about the Numa organ's problems which my unit also has: the sound cuts to zero when you change presets, and when you return to the B preset key the settings get scrambled.
> >
> > I am depressed since I find these problems unacceptable, yet I also feel the Numa organ has a sound that is substantially better than other clones I have seen. I would rather not return the Numa if there were some way the preset problem could be corrected.
> >
> > I hear some of you have not experienced the preset problem. I am still within the 30-day return period; on the other hand I also have gigs to play in the immediate future. Any suggestions on how to proceed?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Mel
> >
> > --- In CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com, Shawn Lyday wrote:
> > >
> > > I recently obtained a Numa and sent it back -here are my views:
> > . . .
> > > The B pre-set on a Hammond console or an XK3c returns you to your â€Å"live” setting
> > > that you left-not so on the Numa-The B preset key gives you whatever pre-set you
> > > just came from-what is the point of an unprogramable preset key if it doesn’t
> > > return you to a â€Å"live” set?
> > > Â When you switch presets while holding down a key or chord, the sound goes dead
> > > until you lift up and retriggerâ€"This could be by design except for the fact that
> > > this does not happen with ALL of the pre-set key’s (??) That is a software
> > > glitch and is present in my friends Numa also-
> > > Â The crosstalk control has the bad capacitor/ground hum tied to it so there is
> > > no way to get that nice tone wheel bleeding sound without turning up that hum
> > > that we all spent much time and money to eliminate from our B3’s-
> > > Â The Expression pedal circuit is also very quirky- that maybe just not to my
> > > taste-
> > >  Finally-I contacted Studiologic/Numa with all these concerns along with
> > > mentioning that none of this is addressed in their add campaign, and they
> > > responded by saying that all these issue’s were â€Å"normal” for the Numaâ€"no dialog
> > > at allâ€"very poor support-
> >
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