From goffmac747@aol.com Sat Jan 29 15:19:29 2011
Subject:Re: Ventilator /Leslie 50C comparison files


In a message dated 1/30/2011 6:23:09 AM, jukefox@jukejoynt.com writes:

<< I CAN, however tell you that, from a standpoint of authenticity, my B-3
is equipped with a reverb unit, which places the reverb ahead of my leslie
in the chain. I actually prefer this effect to that of my C-3, which is
hooked to a 122RV, where the reverb is in the leslie cabinet and emanates from a
separate set of speakers on the side of the cabinet, unprocessed by the
rotor. The unprocessed verb seems to me to detract from the leslie effect, and
actually serves as a parallel effect to the rotor in the case of the old
122RV model leslie, without one effect processing the other.

>>

The trick on the 122 RV which has only one 6x9 speaker for the reverb which
is similar in idea to the A-100 with reverb to a stationary speaker
although a 12", using an L-pad to control reverb loudness, is not to use too much
reverb so that it supports the rotor effect and doesn't clobber it. Keep in
mind when Hammond put reverb chambers inside the organ it was not supposed to
be hooked up to a leslie. So reverb coming out of rotors is actually a
stylized accident. On a recording or in a mix, reverb through the rotors gets
lost and basically only sounds good in chorale through the rotors if organ by
itself. I can see where the "accident" might sound good in certain
situations if you are playing the organ as the main instrument during live
performance. The spring reverbs that were put in Hammonds, the Fisher Spacexpander
with Accutronics tanks, a Hammond invention btw, didn't really sound that good
to begin with. You can change tanks as well as they don't all sound the
same.

A good example of reverb on a Hammond/leslie is Stephen Stills' Love the
One You're With. But the jury is out as to how he accomplished that, whether
it was dry leslie, EMT plate reverb on the track at mixdown, which to my ears
is what it sounds like and not an Accutronics spring tank in the organ.
With a Vent you can use better reverbs, digital that may get a better sound if
the spring is too corny to your ears. But what I meant by processed reverb
before the Vent was if for example you had overdrive dialed in on the Vent
and placed the reverb before the Vent, then the reverb tone would sound
overdriven as well, rather than a clean reverb reverberating an overdriven
leslie, coming after the Vent. There's a difference.

Goff