From gabru@comsec.net Fri Jan 28 10:06:55 2011
Subject:Re: [Hammond_xk-3] Harmonic Beating with Vent and XK3c????

Hi Mike,

Have you owned an XK-3c? I can't imagine going from that to the Voce. It's not that I think the Voce is bad.
but of several people I know who also owned the Voce non still do. Actually most of the modern clones sound
good but as a former console (B3/C3) player I also appreciate the control layout on the Hammond due to the
layout of the controls and feel of the keyboard. Sound wise these days there are several great options to choose from.

Gary

From: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of MikeW.
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 9:51 AM
To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CWSG] Re: [Hammond_xk-3] Harmonic Beating with Vent and XK3c????

oh okay. u are entitled to your opinion. MikeW.
--- In CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com, Gary Brumm wrote:
>
> I've had both....It'd subjective just personal opinion.
>
> Gary
>
> From: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of MikeW.
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 9:39 AM
> To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [CWSG] Re: [Hammond_xk-3] Harmonic Beating with Vent and XK3c????
>
> according to whom Gary ........... cause i dont think so . MikeW.
>
> --- In CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com, Gary Brumm wrote:
> >
> > Something else is going on......a Voce would be a downgrade from an XK-3c.......
> >
> > From: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of MikeW.
> > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 7:38 PM
> > To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [CWSG] Re: [Hammond_xk-3] Harmonic Beating with Vent and XK3c????
> >
> > uh oh take the plunge and buy a Voce v5 organ . No harmonic beating there. MikeW.
> >
> > --- In CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com, David Jacques wrote:
> > >
> > > So I worked on this a little more...
> > >
> > > I readjusted the vibrato settings that I tweaked for the internal XK3c
> > > sim. Lowered the midrange boost a bit, and things got better... But...
> > > it still beats. There is a pronounced beating (phase shifting) with V/
> > > C on, and very little (but still there) without it. It is better in
> > > stereo than mono. The closer you move the virtual mic on the Vent, the
> > > worse it gets.
> > >
> > > I am kind of surprised because the XK3c does not do this with a real
> > > leslie. I thought that they had solved the problem after the XK2.
> > >
> > > Other than that, the Vent sounds great...
> > >
> > > On Jan 27, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Gary Brumm wrote:
> > >
> > > > Turn off the Tremolo on the EV :)
> > > > ....just kidding.
> > > >
> > > > I will have to check it out. I don't use the C/V much but I would
> > > > think I'd notice that for sure.
> > > > Are you sure you aren't overdriving the Vent. with the XK? It has a
> > > > very hot output and I can't run
> > > > above about ¼ of the way up on the XK volume control? That might
> > > > exaggerate the effect??...maybe??
> > > >