From gabru@comsec.net Sun Apr 10 23:07:45 2011
Subject:Re: Bye, Bye VK8m

It's not the speakers that are far off, it's the sound from the organ that gets changed when running through a Leslie cabinet.
This is why the Ventilator is so popular...it has the cabinet and preamp simulation built in so when you run through high quality
speakers it sounds right. If you alter the sound of your monitor or PA speakers then anything else run through the altered speakers
won't sound right. It hasn't been practical for manufacturers to put the DSP power of the Ventilator into a clone internally due to
the price increase making the clone less competitive than others. You really can't beat $500 to replace the preamp, cabinet, rotors,
and microphones of a full Leslie set up.

From: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of MRK7421@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 10:21 AM
To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CWSG] Re: Bye, Bye VK8m

What I am saying, and I have said it before many times is that P.A.
speakers really screw with the sound of digital clones.

What speakers exist out there that have a similar response curve to a
leslie? To my knowlege, there are none.

So in most cases, the speakers are so far off that it really causes a lot
of problems.

I had a pair of 15'' two way Yamaha ( I think BR 15 ?) that were a low end
version of their standard 15 inch two way. Those actually sounded good. The
tweeter did not dominate and it all sounded full and warm with just about
any amp I used.

A couple other things that contribute to clone problems are percussion
volume and the way a leslie sim interacts with the percussion. A lot of sims
seem to try to enhance the upper harmonics which create problems.

Which is one reason that chorus vibrato on a clone is so important to me. I
can just go for the straight chorus sound if the sim is causing problems
through the P.A.

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