From hammond.b3@verizon.net Sun Feb 14 13:45:50 2010
Subject:Re: Retirees

My experience with "club" owners is they have no measure of good or bad musicians. Loud or soft, they don't care as long as people are in the seats and drinking.
If the band is not living up to their expectations of what the club should be making that evening then everything becomes a problem. Too loud, wrong music, band is no good etc.
The list becomes endless.
I've even seen it in a few large venues. One especially in Dallas, The Palladium, managed by one of the largest promoters, has a staff of stage and technical folks who are just down-right idiots. It gets even weirder since the Production manager who is a real nitwit works for the prod. mgr. at the local Nokia. The Nokia guy couldn't be more of a professional. If he hears that one of his crew was doing anything unprofessional he personally takes care of the situation on the spot. Funny how the Palladium gets away with the stuff they do but Nokia runs a REAL tight ship.
I personally feel that I have a good professional gauge of what is required to put on a professional show. From staging to performing. But if I even attempt to try to get someone in line then I become the biggest A**hole in the world.
That in itself says everything about musicians AND venue crews.
Yeah, I'm jaded. I've been fortunate to work the best AND the worst so I know how things should go and expect everyone else to be the best.
I truly believe you should put on your best show whether you're in a small club or an arena. Most musicians take the approach that they're not making what they're worth so they just do their own thing for self-satisfaction. That's why Clive Davis, in his days at Columbia, refused to allow a contract band to produce themselves.
This is why I've finally about had it with the locals.

From: goffmac747@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:21 AM
To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CWSG] Retirees


Strange how technology tracks sensibilities. Before, no one minded if they smelled car exhaust and cigarette smoke, now.. acoustic drums are a new evil...
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Time for electronic drum sets and small amps if you want to play live..
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In fairness to the percussionist, he likes his toys same as the next guy..but perhaps his time has come to "do it outside the building" too.
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I think the venue should be part of the problem. If loud rock music is featured, a stage that helps with that is necessary. If a club owner wants to feature this genre, they need to invest in the right stage and not expect the band to perform miracles..
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As far as the band is concerned Randy Bachman put it best...

If it were easy as fishin'
You could be a musician
If you could make sounds loud or mellow
Get a second-hand guitar
Chances are you'll go far
If you get in with the right bunch of fellows..

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From: Chuck <hammond.b3@verizon.net>
To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, Feb 14, 2010 11:57 pm
Subject: Re: [CWSG] Retirees

tired of these Neil Pert clones and their 35 piece drum kits. They got 35-piece erector sets and they use every piece on all songs.

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