From djacques@csulb.edu Mon Apr 27 13:14:50 2009
Subject:Re: What is the best stage piano?
That’s cool that you play Maybe I’m a Leo… I used to play that one years ago… A very underrated song. Especially Ian Paice’s drum parts. Fantastic!
From: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tonysounds
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:12 PM
To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [CWSG] Re: What is the best stage piano?
I do Hush, Highway Star, Space Truckin, Maybe I’m a Leo and Smoke On the Water on either my Nord Electro or my XK1. The keyboard on the Electro actually takes the windmill chops better! What red plastic are you referring to???? My Electro and Stage both have metal chassis with real wood (not pressboard) endblocks. The only plastic on them is the knobs and buttons. They are lightweight, but they are very robust. I throw Velcro on the bottom of all my keyboards and they all sit securely on my stand, no fly away, no give, no nothing. I genuine concur with you on a lot things Clone related, but you’re way off-base on this one.
"The meek shall inherit nothing." -FZ
"Hitting 'play' does not constitute live performance." -T
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--- On Mon, 4/27/09, djacques > wrote:
From: djacques >
Subject: RE: [CWSG] Re: What is the best stage piano?
To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 2:55 PM
That’s just my opinion… The Nords have so much lightweight plastic they just feel like toys to me. Try doing a windmill chop on one. C’mon… try to play America and do a few Emerson chops! I bet that Nord goes flying past the guitar player. I feel that a keyboard must have some girth… some gravitas… Call me crazy, go ahead…
From: CloneWheel@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:CloneWheel@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of tonysounds
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 12:51 PM
To: CloneWheel@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: Re: [CWSG] Re: What is the best stage piano?
Again, it’s not the product as much as the relationship that matters here. And let’s be clear, I’m not saying Yamaha pianos suck: For years, in my big midi rig, the Motif Classic’s General Midi bank’s NATURALGRAND is my ‘go to’ piano sound. I think it’s great. But when terms like “little red toys” are bandied about, that’s just being ridiculous, and people should be aware that most of the time gear is chosen for its availability and ease of repair when on the road. You’d be hardpressed to find a major city where a Motif was not available, right? That doesn’t discount the fact that the Motif is great, but it’s not necessarily a greater instrument than the Stage. Same thing with Kurzweil. The economics of the industry has a lot to do with the visibility of a brand.
"The meek shall inherit nothing." -FZ
"Hitting 'play' does not constitute live performance. " -T
www.myspace. com/tonyorant
--- On Mon, 4/27/09, hammond.b3@verizon. net > wrote:
From: hammond.b3@verizon. net >
Subject: Re: [CWSG] Re: What is the best stage piano?
To: CloneWheel@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 1:32 PM
Stevie would not endorse a product he doesn't like. Of the endorsers I know, none endorses a product because it's free.
Of the TV and radio folks I know, not one of them endorses a product they wouldn't use.
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From: tonysounds
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:57:27
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Subject: Re: [CWSG] Re: What is the best stage piano?
Wow Dave, that’s the kind of condescending and really uninformed response I would never expect out of you. If Yamaha weren’t giving Stevie product to parade on stage, how likely would he to still be using it? Not to mention that what Steve Wonder uses really has no bearing on “what the best stage pianoâ€� is.Â
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Little red toys? The Stage is no more a toy than the XS8 or the XK3c. None are the real deal, all are compromises, and all have strengths and weaknesses. (Yes, the XK3c is an organ clone, but it’s a compromise at best.) I don’t see any Hammond organs and leslies on Stevie Wonder’s stage either, but that doesn’t make them toys.  Â
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Let’s elevate this conversation back to a level befitting its participants, shall we?
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"The meek shall inherit nothing." -FZÂ
"Hitting 'play' does not constitute live performance. " -T
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--- On Mon, 4/27/09, djacques@csulb. edu wrote:
From: djacques@csulb. edu
Subject: Re: [CWSG] Re: What is the best stage piano?
To: "Clonewheel Group"
Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 12:38 PM
All I have to add is that Stevie Wonder plays a Yamaha Motif Xs for his live shows. I don't see any silly red toys on his stage. .
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From: abwdds@aol.com
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:27:02
To:
Subject: Re: [CWSG] Re: What is the best stage piano?
I find the Kurzweil PC3X piano ("Stage Piano" patch, #2) is really
nice...comparable to the Yamaha piano sample in the Nord Stage...but I can't warm
up to the KB3 organs that it has implemented. If orchestral or vintage
sounds are important to you, the PC3x is the absolute king. But nothing can
touch the Hammond/Leslie combinations, or the Clavinets and the ability to
modify either sound, on the Nord Stage. In a jazz context, the Nord is the
only piano that convinces me absolutely that I am playing a piano. That
being said, I absolutely love my PC3x as well.
One little tick about the Nord (both the 88 and the Compact).... when
I really get into it, and play with gusto percussively onto the upper end
of the keyboard, it seems to trigger the chorus effect button somehow...very
strange !! Anybody else experience this ??????
-Alan
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