From dsalley@pacbell.net Fri Mar 21 01:17:04 2008
Subject:Re: Dual Manual Clones

If an XK-3 system was limited to just 2 bare manuals, instead of a
full system to make it into a fully featured clone (base, bench, foot
pedals), I would have called it a bare set of 2 manuals too.

Again, I'm not casting aspersions on Nords's C1. Show me the rest of
the system and I won't call it 2 bare manuals. As it is now, that's
all you get, about 1/2 of an organ or I have somehow missed Nord's
foot pedal clavier, substantial and solid base with legs and bench.

I wasn't discussing the merits of any of them in any way as to call
any of them better. The issue was a complete organ. 2 keyboards does
not make a complete organ, that's just the upper half.

The most forward thinking one, in my opinion, just happens to be the
Diversi, it doesn't sample anything, it models. It's the latest in
clone technology and you pay for it too. It's missing features an
XK-3, New B3 (furniture model or Pro) offer: fully functional pre-sets
that do more than call up some drawbar settings. I understand
Diversi's thinking, vintage console pre-sets were of limited use, but
that has all changed with Ham-Suz's new organs and having them not be
there made my choice real easy. I wanted pre-sets that add a world of
change at the touch.

I know you Nord guys get real touchy about any criticism about your
boards, but 2 boards are still not an organ. They're merely 2
keyboards, albeit real good ones, that have tons of great features.
That they're not full organs remains the key to what I said earlier
about being "2 bare keyboards". By my terminology, an XK-1 would be a
single bare keyboard that can simulate being an organ, but is it an
organ or a single bare keyboard that can sound like an organ?

Maybe the word "Bare" is what is being misconstrued. Bare to me means,
where's the rest of the organ, that's all.

Chops? Chops were full organs that when pieced back together can be
full organs, otherwise they are just the 2 top keyboards of a Hammond
organ. You'll need legs, bench and pedal clavier to complete the
package. They have the inner workings of a full organ, just like the
Nord C1 does, the Korg, the Roland and the XK-3's and in all cases
they are glorious, but without the rest of the package, they're not
organs, they are organ keyboards. Korg, Roland and Ham-Suz can be
configured easily as full organs. And now Korg and Roland are gone
from that market. What's left in stock is all that is left of either
of those 2 brands.

XKDave

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