From diversiorgan@yahoo.com Mon Feb 25 15:40:43 2008
Subject:Re:Diversi Organ Vs Hammond
Tony... I think you are not understanding what I said. The Nord is only what it is by nature and it is closer to a synth. Even the look and how it functions. Yes, it's hot right now. But I remember when they started. I thought they were pretty cool. They couldn't get anyone to stock them.
Your are correct in that the Korg BX3. That is what I was referring to. The BX3 as well as Roland VK-77 were offered as a top only product. The VK88 is offered as a top only prouduct. I should know, I sold Roland and still do sell Roland products. AlsoKorg offered me the line as well in our retail store. The same even held true for the Viscount 2 keyboard drawbar organ, it could be purchase as a top only.
Understanding the 2 markets here and in Europe. First in Europe they sell two keyboard clones "Tops" very easily as there are VERY few chopped Hammond's there and I might add that they aren't cheap, the chops that is. This is because Europe dosen't have the access to the number of used organs that we do here. Here.. You can still find chopped organs at some great prices. And you see it here all the time someone finds and organ or gets one given to them and they ask about how to do the repairs and even how to do there own home made chopped organ. But when it comes to the US market and a two keyboard drawbar top only organs there is currently a big enough demand. Mostly because of chopped organs.
When it comes to the XK3 system as a full two keyboard unit there are VERY few stocked in stores where you can really go play and try them out.
You mention these groups that used the VK... You even said one HIDE the fact it was a Roland... How's this... I personally service the two B3's for E Street Band, you know Bruce Springsteen's band. E Street has a VK-77 and it isn't even plugged in. But one of the two B's is used.
It will take some time for the DV-Solo to start to show up in retail stores.
Regards,
Tom Tuson
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----- Original Message ----
From: tonysounds
To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 2:04:18 PM
Subject: Re: [CWSG] Re:Diversi Organ Vs Hammond
The Korg BX3 (maybe you meant that, not Korg 2???), and Roland Vk77 and vk88¢s weren¢t kits you could buy in pieces, you bought the whole thing or none. The CX3, VK7 and VK8 were the single manual versions. So, to answer your question, in terms of the Hammond clone niche market, the majority of clones sold happened to be the single manual CX3, VK7 and VK8s. Why? Price, convenience, and of course, you could actually go see/play/hear/ audition them. While I¢m sure the numbers wouldn¢t have been huge, they might have sold more 2 manuals (BX3, VK77 and VK88) if people could have seen them. I actually saw a few VK77s on the road (Sean Hopper of Huey Lewis & The News had one hidden in a Hammond shell). The Key 5 you couldn¢t find anywhere to audition or play. It¢s one thing to plop down $500-1500 for an instrument on faith, quite another to drop $3k or more. If the Key5 were available to experience, I think you¢d see more of
em. It¢s just the nature of the consumer
beast: you want to know WHAT you¢re getting. I think the Nord C1 will actually outsell any dual manual clone because they¢re actually putting them in stores. You can¢t just eliminate it because it has no drawbars; it has an alternative interface that may or may not be acceptable to some players, but the fact is, it¢s a Hammond clone that does a great job of producing ¡that sound¢. It¢s lightweight, affordable price tag, and market presence will set the bar for dual manual clones.
It will be interesting to see how things shake out.
T
T
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