From diversiorgan@yahoo.com Sun Feb 24 06:43:46 2008
Subject:Re: Diversi Organ Vs Hammond
May we invite you to come to the store and try the organ for yourself.
Regards,
Tom Tuson
Diversi Musical Instruments
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From: "goffmac747@aol.com"
To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 3:03:05 AM
Subject: Re: [CWSG] Diversi Organ Vs Hammond
Kudos for the review..it made me visit the Diversi site and sludge
through those on again off again videos and clips. An advertisement is
a direct reflection of the people who put it out. With all the better
media players on ordinary websites, it would behoove Diversi to get
their webmasters in gear.
I think the Diversi is close, but there's something that it is missing
and for one, the attack and the way it handles the upcoming notes.
There is also a difference in the tone that is "Hammond-like" but not
"Hammond." Some of the harmonics and overtones are "off." Sometimes
they don't land and cluster right.
Listening to Joey on youtube play Blues for Bobby C on a B3 and then
comparing it to his 2008 NAMM New Song #2 on Diversi's site, taking for
granted this is really Joey playing on the mp3 clip, I sense there is a
missing response in how the Diversi reacts to the notes played and the
way one would expect the next notes to sound.. It made Joey play
different on the Diversi than on the B3 in the u2b clip almost as if he
were second guessing himself as to what to play next. Sometimes it
reacts like a B3 tone-wise and then sometimes it doesn't. As if after
you've played a flurry of notes, the next part of the riffs don't sound
"familiar." Something changes and it gives you that "oh-oh" feeling.
I'm not a software scientist but I sense the software is playing
catch-up and may have some things to resolve. There is a hint of a lack
of immediacy as opposed to the way a tone wheel reacts. I must surmise
that trying to digitize analog's infinitesimal increments is a daunting
task.
Papa John's clips also gave me the same feeling, same for PJ Morgan's.
At the risk of getting broiled on this, there are a few differences. To
use a guitar analogy it's like playing a Strat copy and then playing a
real Fender made in USA Strat. (One that the factory got right..hehe. .)
You get close but after you dig in and start to play the instrument,
how it reacts becomes apparent and what you can find in the original
version, is missing in the copy version. Therein lies the rub. Picture
Tarzan swinging through the trees expecting the next vine to be in the
right spot for him to let go of the one he's hanging on to and then all
of a sudden that vine is not where he needs it to be or the upcoming
vine didn't react as smoothly as the previous one. Apologies in advance
as these analogies don't work for everyone.
I used to sell Lowery organs as a day job in between gigs after years
of playing on the road and in recording studios dragging my B3. As you
sit in the store playing all those Lowery's, of course your roots are
with what you played for the longest time.
You look for the similar B3 responses, but they don't happen..
The reason I'm posting this is because I'm curious as to why someone of
Joey's stature would leave Hammond for something that isn't as good as
a Hammond. Specially since he does not need to worry about schlepping a
Beast 3 to any of his gigs. Not unless he can endorse simultaneously
anyone he chooses as some artists seem to pull off and is doing both
Hammond and Diversi.
I don't know anything of the mechanics of the Diversi. I'm wondering if
it has figured out a way to duplicate the key switch stack tones?
I have nothing against Diversi and I'm not employed by any musical
instrument firm. I wish them well. In fact I'm a Sicilian from Brooklyn
and my forefathers were musically and mechanically inclined. O' sole
mio...sta nfronte a te.. as my Ma used to sing to me.. It's just that
in being on this quest for tone, as all musicians at one time or
another are, and now as regards 400 pound instruments, it's important
to thresh out the pros and cons and let the opinions fly.
The DV Solo looks real inviting though..Never seen a full compliment of
drawbars on anything but a chop.
Let's see how the backline industry takes to this.
Meanwhile I'm sure there will be those who will be concerned about
their "backs" and will cash in on this. Reliability issues
notwithstanding.
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From: keyofg53
To: CloneWheel@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 5:46 am
Subject: [CWSG] Diversi Organ Vs Hammond
I have owned and played a Hammond B3 for over thirty years. I have
also owned and tried
many B3 Clones including the XK3. Today I went to the Hammond Organ
Store in Woodlyn,
PA to look at their new Diversi Organ. They are sold out completely of
every model they
have but they had Joey DeFrancesco' s organ there that he is currently
touring with in the
U.S. as he is in Italy right now. You would not believe the sound of
this organ. It was
hooked up to a motion sound KP200S and a Motion Sound SW-15 subwoofer.
The leslie
simulation is so good I could not believe my ears. The organ sounds
better than any real
B3 I have ever played. It blows the Hammond XK3's out of the water you
cannot even
compare them. I purchased/ordered the DV-Solo on the spot. It uses
the exact same
sound engine as their full console organ. I have always been a loyal
Hammond player and
when Joey D switches from Hammond to something else you better believe
the "sound" has
to be better and it is. There are (5) different Hammond Cloned organs
in the Diversi and it
will blow your mind. The physicist in Sweden that developed this
technology should get
world honors. If you get a chance to hear the new Diversi Do Not Miss
it. Go to the Diversi
website and you can get the schedule where Joey D will be playing it
for the next several
months. Finally after many many years a portable keyboard that sounds
like a REAL
ORIGINAL HAMMOND ORGAN with a leslie simulation that is just stunning!
Not like the
Hammond/Suzuki Hammonds at all! John Gualtieri Garnet Valley, PA.
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