From tonysounds@yahoo.com Tue May 08 08:11:28 2007
Subject:Re: Setting up heavy keyboards?

Walter, I’ve been trying to wrap my brain around this one. My Hammondstore chop had its own bolt on legs/stand. It was a very heavy pair of hand bolts for each side coupled with very strong steel legs that were more than capable of supporting the weight of the organ when hoisting it from “down” to the “up” position. (Of course, this requires more strength than just holding up the organ in playing position.)

My Numerous Complaints chop actually sat on a WS550 stand. And I was never able to figure out a way to put the organ on it by myself ever. Obviously, that WS550’s legs won’t support the kind of tilt up maneuver we’re talking about: those lock balls/nipples (whatever they are) will simply pop and the inner leg assembly will fall out, practically irreparable. My stunt was to use an empty equipment rack (12 space Grundorf) with some steel spacers at the top and bottom (you know, the space fillers so you can’t see into the rack ); this gave support and prevented the rack itself from coming unsound with all the weight. I’d slide the organ out of my van on top of this rack (which was on wheels) and onto the rack. Now, this can work as an organ stand with the added benefit (if you’re standing and playing) of getting the expression pedal up a few inches, which will relieve strain on your back.

The only other Idea I have is get an ambulance gurney, and use that as the organ stand! (They’re probably expensive, but they’ll roll in and out of the van with the weight on it, and you won’t have to collapse anything as the legs do that automatically.)

jake92028 wrote: --- In CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com, "fossdog2001" wrote:
>
> If it was mine, I would get some folding legs like the ones that are
> on the bborgan chops and mount them on the m3 and put wheels on one
> side (either removable or stationary) and a "rolling handle" on the
> other, basically creating an attached two wheel dolly. Then after you
> rolled it into place, while it's still at an angle unfold the legs
> closest to you, set it down on the legs, walk to the other side and
> unfold those legs and you're done. Use the "rolling handle" (rolling
> pin style) to load it into your truck. After you roll it to your
> truck (like a two wheel dolly) turn it around and set the handle on
> the floor of the truck, walk around and pick up the wheel end and
> roll it in.

Per the legs this is also something I was thinking. My choice not to
have the legs installed might have put me in a precarious position,
because I'll have to install them myself. I was hoping for an easy way
to put the organ on the WS-550. I think any legs I mount would ideally
be bolted all the way (?) through the bottom instead of just partway,
and and finding an open space in the right spot to drill would be good
luck.

Thanks for the rolling handle tip. I had started to do something
similar with heavier gear in my big sedan, but the running around to
the other side was more of a pain than the easier to load minivan I
have now. Too bad there's not a way to make a lightweight A-frame like
backyard car mechanics use to pull engines up and out with a block and
tackle pulley setup.. maybe there is. It would be nice to just set up a
lift with a sling around the organ and bring it up, then push it into
position over the stand and let it down - in a perfect world.

I know 'tonysounds' or 'T' is the master of the WS-550 like putting
rods through its leg holes for an ez 2nd tier. Maybe there's a way to
rig something up with the stand as part of an easier solution. Hey T!...

Walter j



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