From ted@speakeasyvintagemusic.com Tue Oct 24 14:36:34 2006
Subject:Re: New Speakeasy 122 Amp Modeler

I see that "Modeled after" is causing some confusion. I hope to clarify
this.

Modeled after in this use means "the design was based on the acoustic
properties of". It does not indicate the products position in the audio
chain.

For those who don't already own a Vintage Tube Preamp (VTP), the 122
Absolute Modeling Amp (122AMA) position in the audio chain would be:

Keyboard->122AMA(With Preamp)->PA Speaker (8 ohms)
Keyboard->122AMA(With Preamp)->Solid State Leslie(tm) Cabinet (e.g. 2101)
Keyboard->122AMA(With Preamp)->PA Input
Keyboard->122AMA(With Preamp)->Normal Stationary Keyboard Amp

For those who have our preamp already, it would be:

Keyboard->VTP->122AMA->PA Speaker (8 ohms)
Keyboard->VTP->122AMA->Solid State Leslie(tm) Cabinet (e.g. 2101)
Keyboard->VTP->122AMA->PA Input
Keyboard->VTP->122AMA->Normal Stationary Keyboard Amp

In scenarios 1, 3, and 4 you'd be using your on board sim for Rotary
effects.

Cheers!

Ted Thompson
General Manager - Speakeasy Vintage Music
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- A Division of Speakeasy Vintage Music

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of rafael2pop
> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 11:17 AM
> To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [CWSG] Re: New Speakeasy 122 Amp Modeler
>
> Hi All,
>
> Hope this could be understood as related to Walter and
> Gene interest thread:
>
> I quote two words from snipped paragraph ( below ) :
>
> "modeled AFTER"
>
> There I can't fully understand the concept , unless at
> first reading as follows:
>
> "So the modeler is 'modeled' after a Leslie with less
> watts as the premise"
>
> Let's begin from the scratch:
>
> Under product description from shoppingcart link it
> tells that the modeler VERSION being compatible with
> Leslie of 11 pins has among other features:
>
> INPUT: 11 pin pigtail
> OUTPUT: 11 pin pigtail
>
> The above let me understand that the modeler would be
> modeled "BEFORE" (not after) the Leslie cab.
>
> Seems that the mini amp with Leslie 11 pin connectors
> in the clone/organ would go IN an INPUT pigtail and
> after signal process, would be OUT thru a 11 pin
> pigtail OUTPUT.
>
> At first look seems that the EMULATING rig acts as an
> intermediate box, performing as an emulated AO-28 /
> Leslie™ signal path.
>
> Corrections are welcome !
>
> PROBABLY of interest ONLY FOR NON US consumers:
> ________________________________________________
>
> About the proposal of having such SE preamps upgrade ,
> this is being put together as it should be something
> manufactured again, sounds like very smart, but for
> overseas customers that feature let those living
> overseas or expats, feel green of envy not being
> there, conversely within the US 48 contiguous states.
>
> I wonder about many Canadian and European peers ,
> usually participating here in the forum, if they are
> concious of VAT / GST (or provincial taxes, present or
> future).
>
> Told that about a rack suggested in former thread
> about mixing both 'SE old' with a 'new' (amp modeler)
> all together in a rack unit.
>
> Sorry for those members from Australia I don't know if
> this is your concern also.
>
> Guess that this Forum is anticipating the trend of a
> NEED (for us or our descendants) about to see a "int'l
> tax free back and forth repair/rebuilt " unless if
> coming from certified manufacturers to offer certain
> security to the tax law makers or Trade officials in
> charge of let a country continue being competitive
>
> Strange about of such tax topics ? hope people here
> understand that in a globalized world, everybody
> should have the right to have "DIY tube amp fun "
> mostly when at the present people has to pay again
> duties when importing things coming from other
> countries (imagine of a notebook) yes that's strange
> for the US average consumer but common for many other
> countries where sales taxation , i.e. GST, VAT, MOM,
> IVA, etc. (a long, loooong list) generally applies to
> a vast majority of imported things, wort yet, usually
> the taxation is focused on the goodies ! and I'm just
> talking about of "audio/electronics" tariffs, not
> about alcohol or cigars.
>
> Bests,
>
> Rafael
>
>
>
> I've seen
> it in use, both recently and going back years ago:
> guitar, EP, and
> organ rigs using a 'baby' Fender (or other) low-watt
> tube amp as a
> preamp with the output controlled into the main amp to
> get the tube
> overdrive sound. You can't drive the full 10 watts, in
> this case,
> into your main amplifier's input, thus an output
> control.
> So the modeler is 'modeled' after a Leslie with less
> watts as the premise.
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