From tonysounds@yahoo.com Wed Sep 29 22:24:52 2004
Subject:Re: OT: Yamaha p90 vs p120

I hear you....my wife did that to me when I went to Japan. I guess she thought I'd try to talk her out of cosmetic surgery (no, not a boob job here either she's got plenty, although she's considering a "lift" for Christmas! THE GIFT THAT KEEPS ON GIVING! lmao) so she had eyelid surgery while I was gone and didn't even tell me until I walked in the door. She looked like she'd been the victim of some SERIOUS spousal abuse. I don't think she needs any of it, and keep telling her, but if it makes her feel better, what can you say, you know?

Anyway, as for the Kurzweil thing, it was through the monitor system (which was killer btw), and then I heard Christian (the owner) play it through the house system, and I just didn't like it...3 days in a row. I had taken one home a year ago for a week and didn't like it then either. I talked to Tommy Zvoncheck about this many times on the phone. He's got the PC2x (same board, same engine, more options than the PC1x) and he'll tell you as well: the pianos are midrangey, harsh and take a serious amount of tweaking to get it even listenable. I thought the MicroPiano sounded worlds better. Tommy's getting rid of his PC2 to get a Motif 8. Kurzweil is notorious for having mechanical problems with the actual keyboard; now with their imminent demise, I wouldn't advise getting into a new Kurzweil product.

I heartliy recommend going to Sweetwater or Guitar Center and see if they have any Motif 8 (not the ES series) and get a deal from them. I'm thinking you should be able to get a Motif 8 in the box for about $1650 now...more or less. And if the keyboard (88weighted) isn't crucial, I would definitely explore a Motif 7 or the new Fantom X7.
I think the pianos are neck and neck -but different- in the Fantom X and Motif but the
Motif hands down has better EPs. But the Fantom has some GORGEOUS synth textures if that matters at all to ya.

Good luck gear shopping dude!
T
Jake Hansen wrote:

tonysounds wrote:I used a PC1x all weekend long....and HATED it. The pianos are SO freaking midrangey that they are practically unlistenable. Horrible, horrible, horrible.
T
Tony,

When I read comments like this I always wonder more about the amp rig than the instrument. I mean would Kurz or any mfg of pro gear release a board that sounds that terrible? But I've read your posts long enough to know you are not given to hyperbole so this really gives me great pause concerning the purchase of a new stage piano. I want to take $4k and stretch it as far as I can. You see, wifey just got her cosmetic surgery she's been wanting (no, not a boob job, she's blessed there) and hubby earned huge points for not objecting (too much) and being loving and supportive post-surgery (translation: I gave her all the pain pills she wanted). The reward: I get the new rig I've been talking about for over a year. That's fair, don't you agree?

I've decided to limit myself to $4k and that means I must spend it wisely. For piano I've decided that key action exactly like a 9' Steinway is less important than it used to be. Monday night in studio I was playing piano parts on a Triton LE and while far from ideal I quickly adjusted. Also there have been times when my hands hurt during a gig because I work so hard at my day job. So I'm thinking a lighter touch might be a good thing. All I really need is 88 keys, good acoustic grand, wurly, rhodes, and clav. The essentials. Possible choices: P-90, SP200, PC1x, SP88x, or SL-880 with micropiano, XV-2020 or similar unit.

I want a dedicated Hammond clone and it would be way cool if it said HAMMOND on it.

For amplification, stereo Hurricane tube pre and a KBR-3D.

A nice rig that still fits in the back of a Kia.

Almost anything will be an improvement so I figure I can't go too wrong no matter what.

Right?


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