From carl@vanselman.com Sat May 15 10:44:48 2004
Subject:Re: Expression Pedals

Mitch, I'm glad you love your keyboard - I hope you both have a long and
happy life together. I'm not putting down the new Hammond (just a little
envious perhaps) and I accept that you can control one/several parameters to
make the expression pedal work just the way you want.

But... last time I looked there were no parameters to adjust on my L122,
just as on the Electro, just as on my VR760, it doesn't mean that the
cleaver little pixies who put these things together were not aware of how a
'real' expression pedal works. Indeed in my VR760 manual Roland goes on at
great length to say that they had done just that!

Carl


> Bruce,
>
> Ok...but your CX-3 or BX-3 didn't come with a pedal,
> right? So you did have to seperately provide a pedal.
> This really is no different...except that, as Tony
> said, you get more control with the optional pedal. As
> I said...any of your volume pedals will work with the
> Xk-3. It just won't quite work the same.
>
> The really good Roland volume pedal is $159. The same
> price as the EXP-100. You could use the cheaper Roland
> volume pedal with either the Roland or the Hammond.
>
> Also, can you internally adjust the "expression"
> amounts in the CX-3? You can in the Xk-3. Also, can
> you control how much the expression pedal works - i.e.
> can you adjust the throw with a parameter? You can in
> the Xk-3.
>
> I feel the need to point out once again for anyone who
> just tuned in that I am NOT affiliated in any way with
> Hammond. I don't want anyone to get the wrong idea. I
> just love my keyboard!
>
> Mitch
>
> --- Bruce Wahler wrote:
> > Hi Mitch and Tony,
> >
> > >To the best of my knowledge, Hammond is the only
> > clone
> > >that even offers a true "expression" pedal. All the
> > >other clones are just volume control (can't say for
> > >sure about the CX-3).
> >
> > The CX-3 and BX-3 use an external "volume" pedal,
> > but the internal processing is clearly
> > expression-based. When I drop the volume in a song,
> > the bass -- and to some extent, the upper midrange
> > -- stays fairly well up there. A volume pedal it
> > ain't.
> >
> > >In HS' defense, their expression pedal is head and
> > shoulders above the FC7, EV7, Peavey's Volume/CV
> > pedal, or any other pedal I've used. It's heavy,
> > its heavy duty, and it's actually more involved than
> > the "expression" pedal for my Numerous Complaints
> > chop, but just as involved as the Expression pedal
> > for my HammondStore chop. It's not an inexpensive
> > piece to manufacture (though surely not as expensive
> > as they sell it!). And it really works the way it
> > should. For many folks, this pedal might be
> > overkill (those that just play organ pads as a
> > "sound" periodically through the night), but for
> > those that play HAMMOND, this is something else.
> >
> > With all due respect, I've tried the Hammond
> > expression pedal, and I don't find it to be superior
> > to the FC7. I've been using FC7's since I bought a
> > Yamaha DX9 back in the mid-'80s. In fact, at one
> > point, I had FOUR of them under my rig at every gig!
> > (They latch together nicely.) I have never used an
> > expression pedal that I found superior to the FC7.
> > YMMV.
> >
> > And I still say that a Hammond clone with nit-picky
> > accuracy sold with an "optional" expression pedal is
> > just plain wrong! Perhaps the earlier (David's?)
> > analogy is a little off the mark, but try this one:
> > Could Chevrolet get away with offering R70-series
> > tires as stock on the Corvette, with "optional"
> > wide-profile tires as an extra? ;^)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -BW
> > --
> > Bruce Wahler
> > Ashby SolutionsT http://music.ashbysolutions.com
> > 978.386.7389 voice/fax
> > bruce@ashbysolutions.com
> >
>
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