From groovecake@yahoo.com Sun May 09 15:14:26 2004
Subject:Re: It's Christmas at my place!!! (XK3 review)

Harold,

I do play bass pedals but haven't hooked up my midi
pedals yet. Also, I only have the octave Roland pedal
board and those are hard to walk on anyway.

I can tell you, however, that the pedal tones are
great and, like everything else, are immensly
tweakable. Also, you can have your board split and
have the bass pedal tones as you walk left hand bass.
Also, and this is really cool, you can mix the lower
manual AND the bass pedals with the split so you can
imitate the "thud" of tapping a bass pedal as you walk
with your left hand!!

Pretty cool!

Mitch

--- Harold Smage wrote:
> From: M T
>
> >Harold,
>
> >Forgive me...but I really don't understand what
> you
> are asking me to do check. I used my XK-3 last
> night
> with my 147 and it sounded fantastic. I used it
> mostly
> with the C-3 chorus.
>
> You probably have answered in the respect that you
> said you used it largely with the C3 chorus and with
> both slow and fast Leslie, which indicates no
> incompatibilty there, and I presume the adjustment
> for depth will help match individual players
> preferences.
>
> With my VK 7 I have had some problem sometimes of
> finding a V or C that I liked with the sim on- for
> slow numbers, and really somehow no
> "perfect",satisfying mix of the two. I love the way
> it can scream on the first three out.
>
> I've heard that the prototype Joey played at the
> NAMM didn't perfectly suit him in re the V or C and
> that is why the adjustibilty was built in. No doubt
> a "small" thing that contributes to the overall.
>
> I guess they got rid of some V-C and Leslie sim
> compatabilty issues too.
>
> The "contact" response adjustment may help
> realism.
>
> If you play pedal bass, could you comment on how
> The XK3 handles that.
>
> I realize that Bass players or LH bass is
> currently hot. And that MIDI pedal units could be
> slaved to any synth- but there's something to be
> said for the sound of organ bass and Trek String
> Bass which are more compatible with the rest of the
> organ sound package.
> Thanks for filling us in!
> Harold
>
>
> >I play mostly a jazz style - leslie on slow most
> of
> the time until it's time to peak...then fast.
>
> >What can I find out for you? (Anything I do find
> out
> will probably be subject to opinion, of course.)
>
> Mitch
>
> >
>
> > 2. You can adjust the depth of the
> chorus/vibrato!
> > I
> > thought the C3 was a tad deep out of the
> > box...then I
> > found out how to change that!
> >
> > Could you please experiment a bit more with
> that
> > and report on it.
> >
> > The reason I'm asking this has to do with my
> own
> > (and others) personal dislike of eg. C3 plus
> fast
> > leslies-
> > with either the sims or (maybe even more so)
> real
> > Leslies.
> >
> > It seems some people new to Hammonds or their
> > clones enjoy putting all the shaking of both
> chorus
> > and fast leslie on everything, whereas this can
> very
> > well be intolerable to those with years of
> playing,
> > That is- for playing- it is sometimes acceptable
> to
> > listen to!
> >
> > I think it was on the "organized" site that a
> > thread got going on playing with the Leslie off
> > which got comments like "why would anybody want
> to
> > do that?", "you can't play Jazz well with the
> Leslie
> > on" and "you can't get good bass with the low
> rotor
> > spinning".
> >
> > Currently I use C1 reduced with a pot from my
> C3
> > to go with fast Leslie. When i cut to slow
> leslie
> > the chorus setting doesn't get changed. My 122a
> goes
> > to chorale and currently my 22 rotors stop,
> although
> > I can run them on chorale with a Hamptone motor
> > control.
> >
> > With my VK 7 it seems to me they are using
> > something quite similar for their chorus effect
> to
> > what the Leslie sim does. Something about it
> seems
> > more boring than the real thing, in spite of
> > intitially sounding OK.
> >
> > Perhaps you could try the chorus when you use
> the
> > 147 as well as checking out the compatability in
> the
> > XK3 itself w sim.
> >
> > Harold
> >
>
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> removed]
>



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