From dfibraio@comcast.net Tue Jul 27 07:34:02 2004
Subject:RE: on the subject of stands...

Dan. Usually, the other people in the band set up my stand and keyboards
for me and I just connect my pedals. Not that I can't do it, but it is
probably faster for them to do it. I'll look into the standtastic stand,
but I want to be able to put the VK8M somewhere, and none of my keyboards
will accommodate it directly, plus I need to attach a mic to it with a boom
stand attachment like on my quicklock stand. I'll be putting in a call to
one of the people I normally deal with for some assistance here. I
appreciate the advice.

At 09:51 AM 7/27/2004, you wrote:

>Damon, I don't know how you deal with all of this.. there are many times
>I've cursed at how dark it is setting up on a black stage with no lights,
>but I'm feeling pretty silly about that now.
>
>If you have to have three tiers and you want total flexibility on each
>tier's height, width and angle, I think the Standtastic is the way to go.
>Generally, their triple tier is longer (60" I think) but it MAY be possible
>to use three tiers on their smaller 48" stand.
>
>I have the double tier 48" stand. Height is adjustable using an included
>allen wrench. In the really nice touches department, their case has a pocket
>for the allen wrenches. You should have height set "in advance", as it's a
>bit much to do on stage. If you set the tiers too close together, they don't
>fold down all the way, but that's a storage issue if you need them really
>tight. I have found that by adjusting the angles and height I can get what
>I need and not have the tiers overlap when broken down.
>
>The width of each tier is adjustable using a thumb screw. Very easy, and
>once again, should be able to set once and forget.
>
>The angle is determined by using a peg in certain holes. You set the angle
>to perpenicular to pack, and then set it wherever you like. Unlike height
>and width, this is not infinitely adjustable, only to the pre drilled holes,
>but I find there are a few choices I like.
>
>The two A style frames are connected using a scissor mechanism. This allows
>you to set the width as you like - I don't the full extension, but it's
>wider than I like. This gives you plenty of room for pedals.
>
>The downsides of this stand, for me are that the room in back is
>substantial - takes up more floor space than any other stand I've used.
>Sometimes that's perfect though. The other disadvantage, which I don't think
>applies for you, is that everything is black on black and in low light
>situations, very hard to see.
>
>It's a bit heavy, but comes in a very nice case and overall, everything is
>well crafted.
>
>Based on what you've stated, this might a good solution.
>
>Dan
>
> > I've been trying to follow this stand thread, but I can't see the
> > pictures
> > of these Z stands you all post due to my blindness. Here is my
> > current rig
> > and maybe you guys can help me.
> >
> > Currently, I am using a quicklock 3 tire WL series stand with a mic boom
> > attachment. ON the bottom tier is a korg Triton Extreme 76. The
> > middle tier
> > has my Motif es6 and the top has an Alesis Ion. The VK8m that I just
> > ordered will be arriving tomorrow, and I use a TC eletronic M series
> > effects processor running into the Ion. All of this mess runs
> > into a Roland
> > KC550 amp. I have several pedals. Three sustain pedals for each of the
> > keyboards, at least 2 volume pedals and I used to use a foot
> > switch for the
> > organ when it was the VK7, and then it became a foot switch to
> > step through
> > my programs in the master mode of teh Motif. Either way, the minimum is 3
> > pedals. Now, the QL series is an X stand, a double brace design.
> > The tires
> > themselves are not that adjustable, they move out and in, and
> > each tier has
> > a set adjustment for tilting, but adjusting the tilt on tier 2
> > affects tier
> > 3, and if you tilt in tier 3 too much, it can affect the keyboard on tier
> > 2. In additon, due to the Motif's slanted front, it is a bit unstable on
> > the second tire, but the Triton Extreme looks stupid on the middle tier
> > being the widest of all my boards. In additon, pedals under the stand are
> > velcroed to a customer wooden board that my drummer designed to
> > fit between
> > the two feet of the stand. However, when I buy a new pedal, if it isn't
> > velcroed down, it slides around a lot and that is a real issue.
> >
> > So, here is what I am looking for. A three tier stand with better
> > adjustment so that the Ion is not practically over my head. I am 5 foot 8
> > or so, and it is a pain to reach up to play the ion practically
> > at forehead
> > level. I want to have a boom mic attachment and I also want to have some
> > attachment to get to the VK8m if possible without putting it on top of my
> > amp, which already houses my effects processor and my little note taking
> > device which has all my notes for the set, like sound changes, what songs
> > are being played when, etc. I need to be able to put the motif in the
> > middle, but not have the Ion up in the stratosphere. It needs to
> > be sturdy,
> > easily assembled and broken down and easy to transport with a bunch of
> > other gear. And lastly, I need to be able to deal with a lot of
> > pedals and
> > not have them sliding around like crazy and do a custom velcro
> > treatment on
> > them. If anybody can suggest smething here that would help, I am
> > all ears,
> > literally.
> >
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