From dfibraio@comcast.net Fri Jul 09 08:24:49 2004
Subject:Re: upgrading from vk7...v-combo, kurzweil, triton or what?

Hi. Thanks for that info. I was under the assumption that the fourth
channel was for monitoring only. I'll have to investigate this. Teh vk8m
looks like the way to go if I get a keyboard that doesn't do organs well,
but I am leaning towards a Kurzweil k2661 for reasons that fall off topic
and kb3 mode may suffice for a lot of things on stage. For recording, I can
use the NI B4 software, so I am not too worried. But if I change my mind,
or if kb3 mode is not what I want, I'll definitely look into the VK8M.

At 11:33 PM 7/8/2004, you wrote:

>Hi Damon,
>Your KC-550 CAN send all four channels through the direct outs. The
>fourth channel is switched, so you can send it to the headphone
>jack, the direct outs, or both.
>
>Here's another option to consider. If you find a second keyboard
>that you like, but are dissatisfied with the organ tones, add a
>Roland VK-8M. I'm in a different type of band than you, but I needed
>to do something similar. I have a Yamaha S90, a Roland Fantom, and a
>Korg BX-3. I love the BX-3, but many of the places we play are so
>small that there's no room for it onstage. As a compromise, I bought
>a VK-8M to use for gigs where space is at a premium. It's worked
>very well for me.
>
>Good luck!
>
>--- In CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com, Damon Fibraio
>wrote:
> > I have one minor issue with that. Firstly, it is another module to
>bring
> > out. My amp, a roland kc550, will not send a fourth output to the
>board
> > through the direct outs, and I would have to probably do some
>extensive
> > midi bank change messages from the cx or whatever and I don't have
>the
> > knowledge or knowhow to do any of that, especially being blind.
>So, I don't
> > know if that is an option.
> >
> > At 06:59 PM 7/8/2004, you wrote:
> >
> > >Damon,
> > >
> > >I suggest that you do what I used to do when I was playing
> > >music that called for a great deal of Hammond plus other
> > >keyboard and synth sounds. Find a great Hammond clone
> > >(like the CX3 or XK3) and use it for your Hammond sounds
> > >and as a controller to trigger a good rack module for your
> > >other sounds (Like a motif or fantom rack).
> > >
> > >You can set up presets on the CX3 that instantly accesses
> > >sounds from your module. Just make sure that you record
> > >that preset with no drawbars out (or with the output on
> > >0). I used the CX3 as a controller and it worked great. I
> > >bet you can do the same with the XK3 (plus it has pitch
> > >and modulation wheels!).
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Damon Fibraio [mailto:dfibraio@c...]
> > >Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 3:50 PM
> > >To: clonewheel@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: [CWSG] upgrading from vk7...v-combo, kurzweil,
> > >triton or what?
> > >
> > >I am really in a pickle, and could use all the advice I
> > >can get. I have a
> > >keyboard rig ohat consists of a motif es6, an alesis ion,
> > >and a roland vk7.
> > >The vk7 is not cutting it for me in live applications,
> > >mainly due to its
> > >limitations as just an organ clone. I do not really want
> > >to sacrifice my
> > >organ tone, but I do need more from my second keyboard
> > >than just organ. I
> > >am looking at the v-combo, but it seems like it may not
> > >work out for me.
> > >Yes, it keeps the organ tone and interface, and adds piano
> > >and synth tones,
> > >but it seems limitted in that regard and I need something
> > >that is
> > >versatile. While it probably does the organ great and the
> > >acoustic pianos
> > >great, the electric pianos are lacking even compared to my
> > >motif, and the
> > >synth section without expansion boards is limitted and
> > >tith expansions,
> > >sounds may be difficult to find quickly. I was thinking of
> > >doing the
> > >unthinkable and sacrificing a bit of tone for versatility,
> > >so I started
> > >looking at things like Korg Tritons and Trinities and
> > >Kurzweil K2600 or
> > >K2661. I don't know what you all think of the Kb3 mode,
> > >and I know that
> > >Triton organs or trinity organs will pale seriously in
> > >comparison to what I
> > >have now, but I am just trying to make my playing life
> > >simpler and that
> > >second keyboard that deoes great organ but nothing else is
> > >becoming a
> > >limitation when I need something more from my middle tier
> > >keyboard. So, I
> > >turn to you, in the context of a prog rocker who also does
> > >classic rock and
> > >hard rock, what do you all think is the best solution for
> > >me? I really am
> > >stuck and can't figure out what to do. Thanks for any help
> > >you can
> > >lend. P.S. before you say Clavia nord electro, I am
> > >going to pass. The
> > >drawbuttons would not help me due to blindness. I know
> > >you'll say that it
> > >rules out the triton due to the touch screen, but I can
> > >still access the
> > >sounds without touching it and I can also consider the
> > >triton le or karma.
> > >
> > >--
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