From drjoho@swbell.net Mon Dec 20 10:37:47 2004
Subject:Re: Is the XK3 LeslieSim that bad?

Thomas,

Would you share the actual parameter settings that you have
chosen on your XK3 to get the Leslie sim to your liking?

Josiah

>
> --- In CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com, "Damon Fibraio"
> wrote:
> > I know everybody has raved about the XK3, but it seems to me that
> the XK3 is
> > only going to surpass everything when it is hooked to an outboard
> leslie.
> > For me, that is something I just can't do. I carry out to gigs a
> Yamaha
> > Motif es6, Korg Triton Pro extreme, Alesis Ion, and a Roland VK8m
> with a TC
> > Electronic M300 in a rack for my Ion, plus a Roland KC550 amp. I
> don't think
> > anybody would appreciate me hauling out a 145 or equivalent. I use
> my VK
> > pretty extensively on some songs, we're a classic/progressive cover
> band,
> > but I just can't justify getting any more outboard gear, especially
> since
> > other people transport my stuff along with their, due to my
> blindness. I had
> > thoughts of getting the Motion Sound stereo amp with the rotating
> horn,
> > whatever model that is, but that is expensive and heavy and I have
> too many
> > keyboards now and it wouldn't work. So, I'll stick with what I
> have. <<
>
> I have owned and used an Electro, (excellent sim ) and the VK8-M (
> almost as good when tweaked ) I have a Dynacord CLS22 in a cupboard
> and a Motion-Sound R3-147 gathering dust on a shelf.
>
> I now have an XK-3 ( and VK8-M in a carry-case.)
> I have EQ'd the rotary sim on my XK-3 in line with the graph of the
> frequency response of a Leslie cabinet which peaks at around 2.5khz
> and tapers off up the frequencies.
> I have reigned in the wide stereo image a touch, centering one
> channel more than the other and bringing up its volume a touch so
> that the stereo picture is still centred although now, not as wide
> but with more grunt.
>
> The rotary sim is very nice now and very similar to the VK8's tweaked
> Soundside rotary, I think the XK-3's default frequency response is
> too Hi-Fi, probably in line with being fed into the Leslie 21 system.
>
> Although I think the Electro's sim is one of the best, alongside that
> of the EVB3, some players just don't like the Electro.
> So horses for courses.
> However there is absolutely nothing wrong with HS's latest digital
> Leslie.
> A Leslie it ain't, but neither are any of the others. I doubt you
> could tell the difference on a recording though when EQ'd..
>
> I also own a Ketron SD1 with excellent sampled tonewheel organ
> patches, sampled through a Leslie cabinet. The XK-3 sim is extremely
> close on fast but on slow it doesn't have quite the grind, however it
> doesn't sound phasey or wrong, it just doesn't have quite as much
> definition.
>
> Although there is nothing unpleasant about it's speed transitions, no
> strange wobbles when ramping up and down, it definitely doesn't raise
> hairs on the back of your neck like the real deal but otherwise I
> don't feel the need to test this organ with either the Motion-Sound
> or the Dynacord.
>
> I used to own an XM1 with the first incarnation of the HS Digital
> Leslie which no matter what you did to it just never sounded right.
> This second attempt is fine for me. You need to see if it suits your
> needs; try before you buy.
>
> One thing though, the organ is sorted. If I wasn't happy with the sim
> I would still buy the organ and use my Dynacord.
> Thomas.
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