From anchor@boxofws.com Tue Apr 27 09:08:05 2004
Subject:RE: At the risk of starting a range war.........

I would seriously consider purchasing a speakeasy to use with your current
amp. I own one of those cheap Behringer keyboard amps that I practice with
(KX1200). And the sound of a speakeasy through that amp is better than the
sound of my Barbetta without the Speakeasy. Just a thought.
Mike

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From: Harold Smage [mailto:harjoy@elknet.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 7:46 AM
To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CWSG] At the risk of starting a range war.........

> so I find myself daring to ask the (favorite)
keyboard amp question (again):

I'm in a blues band, using Yamaha S80 and Korg CX-3. Voicings on the
S-80 are acoustic/rhodes/wurlitzer. I've been using a Roland KC-500
amp, but it's time for a change (blown horn, not enough power).

I think you could improve the KC500 by replacing th treble speaker with
something better with a titanium dome for better quality sound and better
power handling. I have a KC500 that I would do this to if I ever get the
specs as to OHms of the KC. I have tried other makes of speakers due to have
heard some rumbles that the KC500 is "wrong" but the trial speakers were
poorer! In particular a Sona 32c had a complete lousy acoustic piano
rendition. Considering reviews there could have beeen something radically
wrong with the unit I got (new out of box)- I didn't keep it.

> I'd
like to be able to carry most gigs from the stage, for only on
occasion are we in a large enough place to put keys in the house mix.
I'd like to improve the acoustic piano sounds; electrics have been
ok on the Roland; and I don't want too 'shrill' an organ.
Stay with something with an EQ. I was advised in re acoustic piano that
"most 'keyboard amps'" overemphasize lows in regard to getting a good
acoustic piano sound. OTOH all organ clones have way too much highs to
reproduce an instrument like organ that normally will have little over
5,000- 6000. OTOH the clones can really handle perc and are fine with first
three out!

>Here are the options I'm trying to examine (forgetting, for a
moment, the mono vs stereo issue.. mostly playing small venues):

- Mackie 450
Highly acclaimed, have the power handling ability and room coverage I
believe.
I A & B'd with an FBT Maxx 4a and bought the FBT, thought it sounded less
sterile, excellent clear sweet highs.

Have heard good things about Eon 15G, including good for acoustic piano.

Speaker placement is often a compromise. Motion Sound has the KP 100 and
KP200 which feature a stereo effect (on stereo patches) that is
electronically enhanced and can provide some of this effect anywhere in the
room but the suggestion is for the speaker to be directly in front or behind
performer- not to the side. Users have suggested that this speaker should be
placed 8" off the floor and tilted up. These were designed to make acoustic
piano sound good and they do, possibly by virtue of not going to single 15"
speakers as the main sound component. I have a 100 and it has plenty volume
at low settings possibly even adequate to handle small lounge settings well.
They are almost like the Bose wave radio, being small and good sounding. The
200 would handle more room.

In a way, speakers are supposed to reproduce all frequencies equally well-
as in flat- and their specs usually suggest that , and yet each unit will
sound different as in YMMV.
Harold

- Mackie 450 + 1500 sub (overkill?)
- Mackie 1521 (not worth the extra $$ over the 450?)
- Mackie 1530 (same ?? as 1521, plus big and heavy)
- JBL EON G2 15 (lots of 'em out there....somewhere)
- Barbetta Sona41C (rave reviews, but real low end??)
- Carvin Combo (15/2x8/Horn - can't find much commentary)

Note: I've not included any MS products because I'm happy with the
Korg leslie sim (for now at least). Feel free to tell me if I'm
missing something.

The archives show a varied set of results/opinions by folks here;
I'm wondering if the new year finds anything more conclusive??

Hopefully this doesn't bore anyone to tears... and thanks in advance
for any feedback.

Mike Maslack
in the woods of Vermont
mjmvt@aol.com

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