From ynottnaro@yahoo.com Mon Oct 27 18:10:41 2003
Subject:Re: Smaller keyboard stand solution

Actually, the keyboard is more than capable of
handling a large amount of weight, and large
keyboards. But if you use larger boards, you DO need
to bump up to the SuperClamp, which is a heavier duty
clamp and comes with longer and denser Tri-Bars. I've
used these stands for more than 10 years (still have
the first 2...one is painted with hands, and the other
is painted with roses and flames).

After putting in the SuperClamps and TriBars, that
Apex held a Roland A80 (60lbs) with a Korg BX3
underneath (and that was actually pushed about 4" away
from the column so that the keys wouldn't be covered
by the A80; the BX3 actually hung 5" over the
SuperTriBars because of how I placed it, and I never
had a problem with it wobbling or sliding or being
unstable; I played standing up and did plenty of
Smears and chops). On a third top tier with regular
clamp and bars sat my Roland JD800, another keyboard
with a large footprint. And you know what I did with
that one? (And this is NOT recommended in the
instructions! lmao) I put little 5cent rubber orings
at the end of the tribars, put gaff tape and velcro at
the top of the column storage door (there's the tape
and velcro deal again...do you guys get the idea my
rig is really jerry rigged? lol), put gafftape and
velcro underneath my JD800 right where it would sit on
the Apex storage door, and tilted it DOWN onto the
tribars and orings. IT NEVER ONCE MOVED OR WOBBLED.
The combined weight on the keyboard? A80-60lbs,
BX3-60lbs, JD800 40lbs. I just pulled the little tab
off in back above the middle leg, so that it set the
pitch back a little bit, and it was fine. If I pushed
on one end of the A80 I could get it to pitch a slight
bit in that direction, but that was intentional.
These things are very sturdy when properly set up.
Think of all the videos you've seen, and live TV
performances as well as concert stages you've seen the
Apex stands on....if they weren't trustworthy, they
wouldn't be around. For a long time they were a very
attractive solution to the keyboard problem. I went
nuts on mine and custom painted them. When I was in
my latin rock phase, both of my APEX were painted in
black and white metalflake in a zebra pattern (to go
with my leslies covered in leopard skin...I KID YOU
NOT!...damn, I wish I had pics of that rig to show
you!). I then painted (well, my motorcycle buddy
painted) them in red metalflake with roses and flames,
and painted 2 more in more abstract fashion. I had
padded bags made to protect those finishes.

Hey Joe...if you're still considering the handstand, a
trade anyday!

Honestly, if you like the way the APEX looks, they're
a very good stand. If you don't like the way they
look, that's a different issue.

T
--- melvinnich@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 10/27/03 8:36:52 PM,
> classicjake@yahoo.com writes:
>
> <<>> I tend to bang away at the piano (bottom tier)
> and do lots of palm
> slides on the organ (top tier). <<>>
>
> Dear Jake,
>
> I found the Apex to be reasonably stable with
> 61-note keyboards that are
> somewhat heavy (light keyboards, not so). I found
> it to be very UNSTABLE with
> keyboards with more than 61 notes. It is unusable
> for keyboards that have a
> large width (distance between front and back edges);
> this is because the little
> T-rex-length arms upon which the keyboard is to be
> perched aren't so long.
>
> Warning: The Apex also has the singular ability to
> break your toes, feet, or
> limbs if you drop it during breakdown, or if it tips
> over, since it is
> basically a metal beam.
>
> All said, I still have the Apex and use it when I
> can. It's great for what
> it does do well.
>

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