From drjoho@swbell.net Thu Nov 20 21:54:28 2003
Subject:Re: Soundfield question about EONG2 and Barbetta 41c

Yes,

I place the Barbetta on top of the Pro 145.

I also send the Barbetta through the PA for balance.

joho

> Joho.... in terms of footprint on stage, do you place the Barbetta
> on top of the Motion Sound (gasp)? If so, is this a rugged
> placement, or are you doing something else?
> Thanks
> Mike
>
> --- In CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com, "Josiah Hoskins"
> wrote:
> > Mike,
> >
> > I am afraid that I have to disagree with you.
> >
> > Comparing a Rotating system to a combo amp is just not fair.
> >
> > I have been using a Barbetta 41c with my CX3 using the simulator
> > and my Yamaha S80. It is loud, clean, and "headphone true to sound,
> > and it does have a more complete soundfield than a PA type speaker
> > (i.e., Mackie 450s or JBL Eons).
> >
> > Besides the narrower field of the 450s and Eons I did not think
> that they
> > were true to sound (Mackie to much treble and JBL to much bass and
> not
> > enough adjustments).
> >
> > I now play organ with a Motion Sound Pro 145, but this speaker
> projects
> > in 3D, i.e., 50% out the front, 20% out each side and 10% out the
> back.
> > So comparing a Barbetta (or any other combo speaker) again "is
> just not
> > fair".
> >
> > I love both my Pro 145 for organ and the Barbetta 41c for piano
> synth.
> >
> > joho
> > Austin, Texas
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "MMK&K Williams"
> > To:
> > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 8:08 PM
> > Subject: RE: [CWSG] Soundfield question about EONG2 and Barbetta
> 41c
> >
> > > You are probably not going to be blown away by the difference
> in the
> > > soundfield between the JBL and the Barbetta. I do think that
> the barbetta
> > > is possibly a little bit wider, but not enough to make a
> difference. I
> > > would more suggest that you might want to think about adding
> another
> > monitor
> > > so that you can hear yourself a little bit better, but obviously
> that is
> > > more expense.
> > > My "day gig" amplification setup is a Barbetta SE41 on top
> of a
> > > MSpro3tm/lowpro, but my "personal" stuff is a Barbetta 41C with
> a HK
> > > Rotosphere handling the leslie stuff. I played a gig this
> weekend with my
> > > rotosphere and Barbetta and sitting next to that sure was
> different than
> > the
> > > motion sound stuff that has a complete "soundfield." I felt
> like I
> > > couldn't hear myself all night, although I had the stuff
> cranking.
> > > My suggestion would be to pick up a EonG2 10" to use as a
> personal
> > > stage monitor pointed towards yourself and then use the big one
> to send
> > out
> > > to the audience, they are relatively inexpensive and you can
> pick up one
> > of
> > > those cool little bags to carry them around in and are ideal to
> take to a
> > > small gig or rehearsal. The only draw back is that the zippers
> are pretty
> > > lame on the bags. I use one for small solo piano gigs, where I
> am playing
> > > in a small room for a short period of time.
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: melvinnich@a... [mailto:melvinnich@a...]
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 12:55 PM
> > > To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [CWSG] Soundfield question about EONG2 and Barbetta 41c
> > >
> > > Dear list,
> > >
> > > I read a review that mentioned that the Barbetta 41c has a good
> > > "soundfield,"
> > > that is, you can hear it nicely even if you are not directly in
> front of
> > it
> > > but are on the stage. Can you actually hear it if you are off
> to the
> > side
> > > of
> > > it, yet on the stage rather close to it? Can anyone verify this?
> > >
> > > I wonder because my EONG2 setup is too directional. If you are
> not
> > directly
> > >
> > > in front of the speaker, you don't hear it, and if you are
> directly in
> > front
> > >
> > > of it, you get blasted into mush. The EONG2 is impeccable if
> you are out
> > in
> > >
> > > the audience, but onstage it seems like it is either nothing or
> too much,
> > > depending on where you are relative to the speaker. (At least
> that is my
> > > experience--if anyone can help me understand a better way to set
> it up,
> > I'm
> > > all ears.)
> > >
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