From dougb415@yahoo.com Sun Nov 02 20:16:34 2003
Subject:Re: Drawbar Registrations

Okay, I'm probably a dumbass (some people would say there's no 'probably' involved), but after working with the drawbars in my VK-7 for the past 5 years, I couldn't answer even one of those questions.

I mean "compared to a piano, what DRAWBAR is middle C?" HUH?!?

OTOH, I have not used a preset since '99. Still learning a lot, but also have learned a fair bit in that time.

-Doug

ynottnaro wrote:
This all information you'll get by sitting down with
your organ/clone and spending time with it. Start
with the first drawbar out and all others in, and
start running the notes and listening. You'll be able
to answer EVERY ONE of these questions for yourself,
and to be honest, you'll get more out of that time
learning than you will READING about it.

T
--- John Worrell wrote:
> jake92028 and fellow other "clonies"
>
> jake raises some good observations for those of us
> who may be neoohytes or
> have developed our musical prowess on instruments
> other than a Hammond or
> cole. Perhaps he or others in the group could
> answer / instruct in the core
> knowledge he recomends; or recomend literature /
> sources that contain it...
>
> ...A typical Hammond/clone 'Upper' manual:
> 1. Compared to a
> piano, which drawbar is middle C?
> 2. What's the interval or octave
> separation between the drawbars?
> 3. What's a Fundamental and a
> Harmonic?
> 4. Where, musically, are all nine drawbars in
> relationship to
> each other?
> 5. What's the range or 'zone' of each drawbar
> compared to
> the others?
> 6. Which drawbars cover the entire range of the
> keyboard and
> which drawbars don't?
> 7. To include percussion, what's a 2nd, what's a
> 3rd; what notes do they represent, which drawbars
> are they 'the same
> as' once you know the 'middle C' drawbar?
> 8. differences in sound in the area of overall
> brightness, drawbar signal strength 'curve' from
> zero to 8, etc.
>
> >From: "jake92028"
> >Reply-To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
> >To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [CWSG] Drawbar Registrations
> >Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 17:31:24 -0000
> >
> >When someone requests organ drawbar registrations
> for a song, it's
> >nice that someone else may know and provide the
> info, BUT: This most
> >often means the player hasn't done their homework
> and/or practice
> >with the drawbars in order to develop a feel for
> the tonal variations
> >they can create. I would go so far as to say - if
> you can't play
> >using only the drawbars and are dependent on
> presets, you haven't
> >learned to play a Hammond/clone organ (yet?).
> >
> >For example, a typical Hammond/clone 'Upper'
> manual: Compared to a
> >piano, which drawbar is middle C? What's the
> interval or octave
> >separation between the drawbars? What's a
> Fundamental and a
> >Harmonic? Where, musically, are all nine drawbars
> in relationship to
> >each other? What's the range or 'zone' of each
> drawbar compared to
> >the others? Which drawbars cover the entire range
> of the keyboard and
> >which drawbars don't? To include percussion, what's
> a 2nd, what's a
> >3rd; what notes do they represent, which drawbars
> are they 'the same
> >as' once you know the 'middle C' drawbar?
> >
> >If you know these facts, then have practiced
> manipulating the
> >drawbars (while practicing) until each drawbar's
> separate sound and
> >the combined sounds of all their variations are
> familiar to you up
> >and down their keyboard range - you'll almost never
> have to ask about
> >a drawbar registration again. Then your only test
> might be that
> >Hammond clones have differences in sound in the
> area of overall
> >brightness, drawbar signal strength 'curve' from
> zero to 8, etc. You
> >can get 'the' sound you want with single notches up
> or down on
> >the 'right' drawbars, once you're mentally and
> sonically in sync with
> >them.
> >
> >Your 'almost never' drawbar questions, once you've
> learned to play
> >them, will be more about a subtle tone variation
> you can't quite
> >nail - as above, could be as little as one notch of
> one drawbar - but
> >someone else's ears have got it. Once you're a
> drawbar player,
> >presets become what they should be - a convenience
> only and a target
> >you can 'morph' from.
> >
> >(Rev) Walter ...it's Sunday, so cut me some slack
> #;-b~
> >
>
>
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