From brianfores@hotmail.com Wed Jan 08 11:37:18 2003
Subject:Re: Medeski and the old CX-3
Hey bruce, thanks for the insights. You've really got the technical info
down. You know that surprises me that the older cx3 is "crisper" as you say,
b/c medeski always likes things pretty dirty. I really want to hear an old
cx3, does anybody know any recordings that were done with the older cx3 or
bx3?? -b
>From: Bruce Wahler
>Reply-To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
>To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [CWSG] Medeski and the old CX-3
>Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 13:27:16 -0500
>
>Hi Brian,
>
> >mitch, hey, interesting comments. You say, ".the old
> > CX-3 is a bad clone of a B-3 to begin with", can you elaborate?
>
>I'm not Mitch, but I'll add my $0.02 ...
>
>The original CX-3 and BX-3 used analog electronics that simulated sine
>waves, like a B-3 does, but the resultant waves were not quite the same as
>the Hammond TG -- not necessarily a worse approximation, but definitely
>DIFFERENT. Also, the "tone generator" in a CX/BX had 96 oscillators,
>rather than 91, meaning the foldback on the top started higher up the
>scale. These two items together resulted in an organ with a noticeably
>brighter timbre than the average B-3. Some players really liked it, but if
>accuracy was the yardstick, the CX-3 and BX-3 definitely failed the test.
>
>The CX-3 didn't have vibrato of any kind -- just the Leslie sim, which was
>fantastic for its day, but sorely lacking by modern standards. The BX-3
>had vibrato, and vibrato chorus, but the effect sounded nothing like a real
>scanner vibrato, IMHO.
>
>The percussion on both organs was brighter and more "digital" than Hammond
>percussion, and lacked that authoritative "thump" on the low notes.
>
>Now, none of this means that the original CX-3 and BX-3 were not useful
>instruments, but even their proponents were known to say things like, "I
>really like it because the sound is a lot crisper than a B-3." This
>probably sounds a little sacrilegious to many list members, but take it in
>the context of the mid-80's, when Hammond owners were selling their
>decidedly old-school instruments for a song to pay for a Prophet 5 or a
>DW6000, and you couldn't even GIVE away an A-100. (I personally gave away
>a beautiful Leslie 147RV to my roommate because it wouldn't fit in my new
>apartment -- on of the dumber things I've done in my life!)
>
>Regards,
>
>-BW
>
>--
>Bruce Wahler
>Ashby Solutions™ http://music.ashbysolutions.com
>978.386.7389 voice/fax
>bruce@ashbysolutions.com
>
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