From ynottnaro@yahoo.com Tue Feb 11 10:20:18 2003
Subject:Re: music, glitz, and purists (hopefully on topic)

The RIGHT way????? I thought the RIGHT way was with
a C3 and a leslie? Its not like HE'S moving it!!!
And when you look at the 15/16 keyboards he has up
there (ok, maybe only 10), whats a few more lbs?
His organ tone didn't do much to impress me the way it
is. I was sort of excited to see it and hear what an
icon would do with it.

t

--- Damon Fibraio wrote:
> Ahhh. Good to hear he is not using those horrid
> organ sounds anymore from
> the early 90s. Listening to him play stuff on An
> Evening of Yes Music, plus
> from abwh, or Keys to ascension with those nasty
> organ sounds, 9were they
> kurzweil?) just drove me mad. Now I really wish I
> could hear a modern
> bootleg with Yes to hear Wakeman do it the right
> way.
>
> At 04:42 AM 2/11/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>
> >The Korg BX3. new one obviously.
> >--- Damon Fibraio wrote:
> > > I wasn't aware that wakeman was using a clone.
> Which
> > > one is he using now?
> > >
> > > At 11:59 AM 2/7/2003 -0800, you wrote:
> > >
> > > > > So here's a question for you guys and gals:
> do
> > > you avoid using
> > > >pitch
> > > > > bend, or velocity-sensitive percussion, or
> other
> > > effects in your
> > > > > playing because you or other musicians think
> > > it's gimmicky and not
> > > > > true to the instrument? Or do you think
> these
> > > are totally valid
> > > > > ways of expressing yourself as a "Hammond"
> > > player, and critics are
> > > > > just talking out of the side of their neck ?
> > > >
> > > >(Before I get started, I am the first to admit
> that
> > > there are more
> > > >than just 2 great keyboard players in the
> world,
> > > but everything
> > > >always seems to point back to Emerson and
> > > Wakeman...)
> > > >
> > > >I've owned a console Hammond, but now own a
> clone.
> > > Yes I miss the
> > > >original, and hope to have another Authentic
> > > Growler before I die.
> > > >Wakeman and Emerson both started with spinet
> models
> > > of Hammonds in
> > > >the late 60's. Emerson moved up to a C-3 when
> he
> > > could afford one,
> > > >Wakeman moved up to a C-3 when he joined Yes.
> As
> > > he has said, Yes
> > > >had roadies, the Strawbs didn't. You can play
> > > anything you want when
> > > >you're paying other people to move it for you!
> > > >
> > > >As for pitch bend and sustain pedals, Emerson
> used
> > > several methods
> > > >"way back in the day" to do both. On "Knife
> Edge,"
> > > he does a
> > > >pitchbend/cresendo at the end of the fugue
> before
> > > the last verse, by
> > > >speeding up the tape in post-production (when I
> got
> > > my clone, one of
> > > >the first things I did was MIDI up a synth with
> > > pitchbend to get this
> > > >neat effect for myself). Emerson also would
> turn
> > > the power to the
> > > >syncronous motor on and off (or engage the
> starter
> > > motor) on the
> > > >L-100 to get pitchbend effects.
> > > >
> > > >As for sustain pedals, they may not be as
> dramatic
> > > as shoving daggers
> > > >under the tops of the keys, but the musical
> effect
> > > is the same. I
> > > >suppose I could put a Yamaha PS5 on top of my
> > > clone, and pile-drive a
> > > >dagger straight thru it for "dramatic effect,"
> but
> > > it wouldn't sound
> > > >much different.
> > > >
> > > >Both Emerson and Wakeman have both the chops
> and
> > > reputation that
> > > >would preclude the need for theatrics or
> effects
> > > for sheer gimmick or
> > > >novelty purposes. Both also own Hammonds, and
> yet
> > > tour with clones
> > > >(while employing roadies nonetheless).
> > > >
> > > >Like someone else said, the instrument is just
> a
> > > tool. It's the
> > > >music you make with it that matters.
> > > >
> > > >- Dave
> > > >
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> "Celebrate the moment, As it turns into one more
> Another chance at victory, Another chance to score
> The measure of the moment, Is a difference of degree
> Just one little victory, A spirit breaking free
> One little victory"--Neil Peart of Rush
> "Seize the day, and don't you cry, now it's time to
> say goodbye
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