From tonysounds@yahoo.com Tue Dec 09 03:27:17 2003
Subject:Re: which clone has the best chorus/vibrato?

HUNDREDS OF TAKES??????? Are you kidding? None of these guys had the inclination nor the budget (not to mention that the engineers and producers patience) to record hundreds of anything. Guaranteed, these guys were doing 3 or 4 takes maximum. Santana were one of those bands that captured everything live.

In case you never heard, the band that made Santana's Abraxas album (and III) reformed about 5 years ago as ABRAXAS POOL, and put out an album. They didn't cover their old material, but rather "rewrote" it. Most of the songs on there sound more than derivative of their original works....one song sounds just like Jingo with different words, another one sounds like Guajira. Hearing Greg Rolie still play on organ as well as introduce synthesizers was pretty cool. The line up was Rolie, Shrieve, Alfonso Johnson on bass, I believe Chepito Ariaz played timbales (or maybe it was his son....I'm in Greece right now, so can't go back and check my disc) and MIchael Carabello played congas (or it was the other way around: Michael's son may have played and Chepito was on the disc). Neil Schon played guitar (remember, he was the other guitarist on Santana III). It's an okay disc, but doesn't hold a candle to any of their Santana work. But it does show how they've all changed as players: no
matter how hard they tried, they don't sound like they did lo those many years ago.

T

jake92028 wrote:
--- In CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com, tony orant wrote:
> ELECTRO!!!!!!!!!

Yep! The Electro definitely has the best clone B3 w/122 Leslie, and
the best clone Chorus/Vibrato - if you choose to use it ...heh-heh

I used to play that old "Oye como va" song but no C/V vibrato set on
me widdle organ, played it using vintage Roland Bass & Lead preset
with pitch bend; one other version with trumpet, trombone, tenor sax
and lead guitarist taking the intro while I played EP/organ rhythm.
It sounded great in each version, covered but not copied by originals
w/covers bands. It's only an old (very old) song after all, one good
example of a fine organ sound - not a religious icon.

The old keyboard rockers that survived the 70's must ROFL to think
that a whole bunch of younger players, and even a few their own age,
are striving their best to imitate something they once whomped out as
a one-off solo, one of maybe hundreds of recording takes, "Cool!
Let's keep that one!" Some may shake their heads sadly at the
thought and sigh. *BUT then again, some of 'em might want to get the
old band together and go on a reunion tour - to prove they don't play
the songs that way anymore. Cool! How much are the tickets? Yay!

Just some thoughts ~ Walter J ...and as TZ likes to remind me and
anyone who isn't his version of Politically Correct: Who cares?

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