From ynottnaro@yahoo.com Sun Apr 27 22:46:58 2003
Subject:hammondstore chops

I've had my Hammondstore chop now for around 14 months
and I love it. It looks good, sounds great...I have
no complaints, other than the stand heighth....they
need to make a shorter stand for those of us who sit
and play. But...the thing is still heavy as hell, and
you'll probably be looking for an alternative if you
gig a lot and move your own stuff.

T
--- brian fores wrote:
> bruce, thanks for the thorough input. THat's a lot
> to think about, but i'm
> already turning away from the older bx-3. THe new
> one still has my
> attention, but the chop had got my attention too.
> Any opinions on
> www.hammondstore.com. I talked to the guy tonight,
> he seemed pretty cool,
> and they look nice and compact. He said he goes over
> them thoroughly so
> they're "like new." To be expected, the pricetag is
> stiff. I also found
> www.tonewheel.com, and they're chop is beautiful,
> nice wood paneling with
> the bevelled sides, but, more wood, prob heavier.
> I've been saving for a
> looooong time, but if i want the chop, i'm going to
> have to be saving for
> even more loooooong time. :) So goes life, thanks,
> brian
>
> btw, how are you enjoying your new bx3?? are you
> using any kind of foot
> pedals?
>
> >From: Bruce Wahler
> >Reply-To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
> >To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [CWSG] Re: Should i buy an old bx3/A100
> chops
> >Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 13:37:42 -0400
> >
> >Hi Brian,
> >
> > >I have the opportunity to buy an old BX3; i was
> lucky enought to speak to
> > >john medeski once and he recommended it above the
> new one, i think, b/c
> >it's
> > >all analog.
> >
> >The original BX-3 is a fine instrument, and many
> people still like them
> >better than the current crop of clones. However,
> there are a few things to
> >consider before owning one. I own the new BX3
> (without the hyphen), and I
> >almost bought the old one in 1996 from Caruso Music
> in CT. Here's my take:
> >
> >- The old BX-3 (with the hyphen?) was a fantastic
> achievement for its day,
> >but there are certain points of it that don't meet
> 2003 organ standards.
> >For one thing, the vibrato chorus is a pretty far
> cry from that of the
> >Hammond scanner vibrato; for another, it has 96
> oscillators, rather than
> >91, so the foldback points are a bit off; the
> Leslie simulator won't fool
> >anyone into thinking it's a mic'ed Leslie; and
> finally, the percussion is a
> >bit artificial sounding. All of these issues and
> more have been addressed
> >by the newer generation of clones. It's not that
> the old BX doesn't sound
> >good -- it just doesn't sound as close to a real
> B-3 as most of the newer
> >clones do.
> >
> >- Many of the BX-3's that are still around are in
> need of some TLC. The
> >reason that I didn't buy the Caruso BX is because
> it powered up with about
> >a dozen problems in the store: buttons that
> wouldn't work, missing notes
> >from the lower manual, etc. I waited around for an
> hour or so while they
> >tried to "fix it," and eventually left with a good
> deal on a Voce V3 (which
> >eventually led to the formation of the Voce Support
> Group, the forerunner
> >of this list). During the wait, I got a chance to
> look inside the BX, and
> >noticed that a lot of the electrolytic capacitors
> were in bad shape -- most
> >had visible corrosion, and some of them had
> actually deteriorated and
> >fallen off! I've heard of other BX/CX owners who
> had similar problems with
> >failing switches and such, and I wonder if it might
> be a common problem.
> >If you buy an old BX, be prepared to spend money
> revamping it; if not
> >immediately, certainly within a couple of years.
> Remember, it's probably
> >at least 20 years old.
> >
> >- Parts for the old BX are sometimes difficult to
> come by these days. The
> >original IC set in the BX/CX has been out of
> production for many years.
> >There is a company called Parastream Technologies
> who has re-released some
> >of the rarest components, but like owning a classic
> auto, be prepared to
> >either do a bit of the work yourself, or pay well
> to have the work done for
> >you. Again, age is working against you.
> >
> >- The old BX is MIDI-less. There are (were?) MIDI
> retrofit kits for it,
> >but these were one-way, notes-only products without
> velocity sensing. You
> >cannot easily use the BX to control other MIDI
> gear. It also has only a
> >few presets, and these are not user-programmable.
> >
> >If none of this bothers you, and the price is
> right, then perhaps the old
> >BX is exactly what you're looking for.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >-BW
> >--
> >Bruce Wahler
> >Ashby Solutions™ http://music.ashbysolutions.com
> >978.386.7389 voice/fax
> >bruce@ashbysolutions.com
> >
>
>
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