From ynottnaro@yahoo.com Wed Oct 02 17:44:15 2002
Subject:Re: Chorale Effect

Hey Dave!

That's a bold move! I bet you've inadvertently bashed
your knuckles on a few occasions thinking you were on
chorale when instead......... !!!!!!!!

But you may have given me an idea that I'll steal from
time to time.

Happy daze....
tony
--- Dave Chesavage wrote:
> Some Leslies (145/147 among others) also had a
> "brake" plug interface where
> none of the motors are energized - the rotors come
> to a dead stop. Going
> from chorale to stop has a very powerful and subtle
> effect. It's great for
> songs which just drop down to nothing, and if you're
> hanging a ghostlike
> chord and the motors stop, the effect just KILLS. I
> don't have a brake
> interface on any of my Leslie, but sometimes I'll
> just reach back and grab
> ahold of the horn rotor to achieve the effect.
>
> Dave
>
> At 05:30 PM 10/2/02 -0700, Stephen Cyr wrote:
> >In the Leslies built after a certain date (in the
> early 60's I think), the
> >rotors had a slow and a fast speed, implemented by
> putting two motors on
> >each rotor, with an idler wheel between them. The
> fast speed is about 360
> >to 400 RPM, and is called Tremolo. The slow speed
> is about 40 RPM and is
> >called "Chorale." The "Chorale" sound is closer to
> what you get with a
> >stopped rotor, but it's different in a way that's
> hard to describe. Like
> >the difference between a guitar with a slow swirly
> chorus pedal and a
> >guitar played "dry." But that analogy only hints at
> what the Chorale speed
> >of a Leslie does to the sound of the organ or
> clone.
> >
> >That's the short version of the story....
> >
> >IIRC, your KBR3-D also has two speeds--right?
> Motion Sound actually
> >measured the speed of a Leslie Model 147's rotors
> to determine how fast to
> >make the MS rotors go. The RPM numbers I gave
> above are my recollection
> >of the numbers given in one of their posts (to this
> group, I believe).
> >
> >---Steve
> >
> > >
> > > I may never own a real Hammond or Leslie...
> > >
> > > but...
> > >
> > > I am trying to make some great Hammondy tones
> with a Motif8 (piano
> > > action, using dry outputs dedicated volume
> pedal) and a MS KBR3D.
> > >
> > > I have always loved the Hammond Leslie sound and
> the animation it
> > > provides in a live band situation.  I used
> to park a flanger stomp
> > > on my DX-7 and manually turn the speed control
> up and down to mimmick
> > > the fast/slow thing.  I played guitar in a
> 70's prog rock band that
> > > covered a lot of Yes Gentle Giant tunes and the
> KB player had an L- 100
> > > - with no Leslie - talk about dry.
> > >
> > > Anyhoo - sorry for the digress - I actually have
> a question.
> > >
> > > What is the Chorale effect and how does it
> work?  I seem to
> > > remember a Chorale button on one of the few
> Hammonds I have actually
> > > seen and this leeds me to believe that it is a
> organ function as
> > > opposed to a leslie thing.  Is it a
> modulation of the tonewheel
> > > speed?  Or is itjust the leslie going from
> stop to fast. 
> > > (this may seem daft but I've never actually got
> my mits on a real
> > > Hammond/Leslie)
> > >
> > > Is there anyway to get the same effect on the
> Motif/MS rig?
> > >
> > > I'd love to hear if anyone else is using this
> combination and find out
> > > what works/doesn't.
> > >
> > > While we're thinking of the MS gear - there are
> very few reviews to
> > > read.  The only ones I've found are on
> Harmony Central in the
> > > Guitars/Effects section:
> > >
>
http://www.harmony-central.com/Effects/Data/Motion_Sound/
> > >
> > > It would be great if people could post some
> reviews to this
> > > link.  'Specially on the KBR3D ;-).
> > >
> > > Many thanks
> > >
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