From DAVIDO@LYNXFS.COM Tue Nov 26 04:22:57 2002
Subject:Re: Decent Results with A CX3 (at last)

Hi Sven,

I'm also using a Speakeasy Classic with V1 CX3. I've found that by
turning up all of the internal EQ settings to +10, the CX3 does
produce just enough output to make the Speakeasy saturate. I use a
combination of the treble knob on the board and the Speakeasy to set
the high's to suit. Still considering adding a mixer or something in
front of the Speakeasy to boost things a bit more as currently i'm
running the Speakeasy volume full on. Having said that, once i turn
up the Leslie to around 7/8 volume, it growls like a dog and i have
to wind the Speakeasy volume back quite a bit. What do you use in
front of the Speakeasy, can you suggest something that's affordable?
I don't really want to pay out too much for a flash mixer, I just
need something to boost the signal a bit. Either way, the Amp Type
setting just doesn't cut it with a Leslie. I think in V2 you can
still have the Leslie Sim on the Pre Amp setting. This will be very
useful for me if that's true, on those gigs where i can't bring the
Leslie.

Dave

--- In CloneWheel@y..., Sven Wannäs wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> I do also have the same experience as you have, also did use
the "Amp type 1
> or 2" modeling before with my CX-3 and Leslie.
>
> When I bought my Speakeasy preamp for about 6 months ago I did try
many
> different settings on my CX-3.
> Did found out that when I did use "preamp mode" the CX-3's drawbars
sounded
> much more balanced with the Speakeasy and Leslie than before with
only CX-3
> "amp type 1 or 2" and Leslie.
>
> I do how ever have my CX-3's EQ flat eventually adjust little more
bass and
> little less treble to taste depending on the room, Speakeasy Treble
at 1 or
> 2 a clock Bas at max (this with Speakeasy Classic and CX-3 V1).
>
> One main thing with the CX-3 and Speakeasy combination is you need
to put
> some thing in between them because of the CX-3's weak output level
in
> "preamp mode", turn up the output volume on that in between gear
until
> Speakeasy's first tube stage start to saturate then lower until you
get a
> clean signal now you have enough feed for the Speakeasy. Now you
can get
> Speakeasy, Leslie or both to growl or very clean depending on Volume
> positions.
>
> Regards,
> Sven Wannäs
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David [mailto:DAVIDO@L...]
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:31 PM
> To: CloneWheel@y...
> Subject: [CWSG] Decent Results with A CX3 (at last)
>
> Just thought i'd share this.. since there's been a lot of criticism
> of the CX3 lately. I'm one of those that has been struggling with
the
> CX3 in a band setting for some while. Recently added a Speakeasy and
> a Leslie 145 which improved things but i was still suffering with
> problems with a weak top octave.
> So, before yesterdays band rehearsal i thought i'd try using the Pre
> Amp setting. I set the internal EQ to 10 for bass, mid and treble
and
> the output to 127 to ensure a hot signal out from the board (as the
> pre amp setting has less oomph than the amp types settings).
> The bass and mid on the board were set hard over and the treble at
12
> O clock. I used the Speakeasy Treble control to wind off the highs a
> bit, i liked it best, set at about 2 O clock. Speakeasy Volume at
> Max, Bass at Max.
>
> I have to report that this was much more successfull when combined
> with the Speakeasy and the 145, the top 2 octaves cut through a band
> mix much better and the CX3 just sounds more Hammond like to my ears
> on this setting, especially on a palm gliss.
>
> I think that most of the problems with the CX3 are inherant in the
> Amp Type and the Leslie Modelling. At low volume Amp Type 1 sounds
> great but something within the sound processing seems to cause those
> important frequencies to clip, especially when you start to drive
> things a bit. Add the Leslie Sim into the equation and the problem
> gets even more complicated as you then have rotot balances and MIC
> distances to worry about.
> I even tried switching back to Amp Type 1 with gain at 0, (no Leslie
> Sim obviously), and the preset was noticeably less 'present' than on
> the Pre Amp setting.
>
> On the Pre Amp setting the keyboard seems to be better balanced and
> without the Modelling the sound has more presence where you need it.
> I'd always avoided this setting as it tends to sound a bit thin and
> weedy, (especially at low volumes) but i think the key is to max out
> the internal EQ to get a beefy signal out to the pre amp. Obviously,
> if you don't have either a Speakeasy or a Leslie, then your stuck
> with the problem, but for anyone using a CX3 in the same way as i
do,
> then this is really worth a try. I'm convinced enough that i've
blown
> through all of my presets to use the Pre Amp Setting as above. It's
> worth stating also, that this does not suffer from the shrill top
> octave problem as you can use the Speakeasy to adjust the treble
back
> to suit. Not saying it'll work for you (it clearly won't if your not
> using a Speakeasy and a Leslie) but i'm a lot happier...
>
> Dave
>
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